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am i nothing but stars to you?
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Contest Pokémafia Spectacular! - Game Thread
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RNP
Despite everything, it's still you.
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- he/him
haneko
previously myuma
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- she, they
sanderidge
out of touch thursday
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what is up gamers i got home at 1:30am and haven't slept yet (it is currently about 7:30am for me for reference) and i am desperately hoping i will wake up before EOD but not desperate enough to set an alarm for it.
setting aside my new and frantic concern that myuma not sending in an action is the reason we don't have a death today (surely she wouldn't just outright say she forgot if it was?!) & continuing for now as if i have not thought that for my own sanity:
currently i am too tired to read through the thread in its entirety again but god fuckin bless the wagonomics post thank u mewt you are a lifesaver
ik yesterday near EOD i mentioned i didn't think mewt and herbe were teamed. i am so sorry but i can't remember exactly why i was thinking this, only that i was absolutely convinced that there were no worlds where they were on the same team, possibly because i was convinced that herbe was wolf and trying to push a wagon on v!qenya, but i don't hold either the teaming conviction or the w!herbe conviction now. rip past sande you will never be understood. i feel really good about mewt now that stryke's flipped, since mewt was the one that got another wagon going, and i also feel pretty good about jack since he moved onto stryke.
re: what i was thinking on trusting jack but not herbe - i still had some lingering uncertainty on herbe because of yesterDay's EOD shenanigans; not exactly able to put a finger on why. i wanted to reread thread so i could do vote analysis but working off mewt's analysis (and feeling good about the short discussion afterwards where herbe corrects some things and isn't just like "omg ok i am clear we are besties 5ever") i feel okay about herbe now and am inclined to towncore jack/herbe/mewt/rnp, which is 4/10 + 2 (zm & me) leaving 4 -1 (stryke) which is 3 unsorted people left for me. i don't know how many mafia there are usually in 10 player games and have been trying to avoid asking because it sounds suspicious to go "hey guys how many mafia are there" (help i genuinely do not know though) but i'm thinking that ideally i'm only missing one townie and two out of myuma/wisper/qenya are mafia.
speaking of qenya: i'm starting to wonder if the Watch Out If I Flip Red post was aimed at me specifically, because in #197 where she's been keeping track of everyone's claimed move numbers, it's literally just me and her who have 4 moves. maybe she was thinking others lied about move count or was just throwing out any self-pres confusing possibilities she could think of, but. idfk. also i don't want to tunnel based on flavor but frenzy plant still really doesn't sit right with me. (on the other hand - would w!qenya really not think to make up something else??? help.) she mentioned earlier that the other Cool move lilligant has is solarbeam, which isn't fitting for a roleblock, but based on the way that some of my moves have been finagled to fit my role i could come up with a fitting way to flavor solarbeam as a roleblock. "the pokemon releases a bundled beam of light at another contestant, so bright and startling it prevents them from performing their own appeal", or something.
also given these paranoias on qenya already making me suspicious, i can work off their feelings combined to special summon paranoia #3 from my deck, which is #360 where she comments that it's possible mewt and herbe could be w/w theatering (after i posted thoughts on mewt and herbe not being on the same team). so mmmaybe she was trying to make me suspicious of them again anyway. idk. it's not a well-founded thought, that's why it's a special summoned paranoia, but it is there.
anyway, qenya (for realsies this time, i have a vote, i swear) - if you're around toDay (pls ;w; ) i'd like to hear from you on your thought process re: the "if i flip red check your PMs" post, and i'd also like to hear what you're thinking about the state of the game in general. how are you feeling about Everybody Hated That on your poast how are you feeling about the votes and the flip.
i thiiiink as of right now i am also pretty blended/not sure on myuma vs wisper and don't have anywhere to start thinking about them. so i'm most concerned with qenya rn.
ok i sleep hopefully this covers all my thoughts up til now & hopefully i wake up before eod. cheers
setting aside my new and frantic concern that myuma not sending in an action is the reason we don't have a death today (surely she wouldn't just outright say she forgot if it was?!) & continuing for now as if i have not thought that for my own sanity:
currently i am too tired to read through the thread in its entirety again but god fuckin bless the wagonomics post thank u mewt you are a lifesaver
ik yesterday near EOD i mentioned i didn't think mewt and herbe were teamed. i am so sorry but i can't remember exactly why i was thinking this, only that i was absolutely convinced that there were no worlds where they were on the same team, possibly because i was convinced that herbe was wolf and trying to push a wagon on v!qenya, but i don't hold either the teaming conviction or the w!herbe conviction now. rip past sande you will never be understood. i feel really good about mewt now that stryke's flipped, since mewt was the one that got another wagon going, and i also feel pretty good about jack since he moved onto stryke.
re: what i was thinking on trusting jack but not herbe - i still had some lingering uncertainty on herbe because of yesterDay's EOD shenanigans; not exactly able to put a finger on why. i wanted to reread thread so i could do vote analysis but working off mewt's analysis (and feeling good about the short discussion afterwards where herbe corrects some things and isn't just like "omg ok i am clear we are besties 5ever") i feel okay about herbe now and am inclined to towncore jack/herbe/mewt/rnp, which is 4/10 + 2 (zm & me) leaving 4 -1 (stryke) which is 3 unsorted people left for me. i don't know how many mafia there are usually in 10 player games and have been trying to avoid asking because it sounds suspicious to go "hey guys how many mafia are there" (help i genuinely do not know though) but i'm thinking that ideally i'm only missing one townie and two out of myuma/wisper/qenya are mafia.
speaking of qenya: i'm starting to wonder if the Watch Out If I Flip Red post was aimed at me specifically, because in #197 where she's been keeping track of everyone's claimed move numbers, it's literally just me and her who have 4 moves. maybe she was thinking others lied about move count or was just throwing out any self-pres confusing possibilities she could think of, but. idfk. also i don't want to tunnel based on flavor but frenzy plant still really doesn't sit right with me. (on the other hand - would w!qenya really not think to make up something else??? help.) she mentioned earlier that the other Cool move lilligant has is solarbeam, which isn't fitting for a roleblock, but based on the way that some of my moves have been finagled to fit my role i could come up with a fitting way to flavor solarbeam as a roleblock. "the pokemon releases a bundled beam of light at another contestant, so bright and startling it prevents them from performing their own appeal", or something.
also given these paranoias on qenya already making me suspicious, i can work off their feelings combined to special summon paranoia #3 from my deck, which is #360 where she comments that it's possible mewt and herbe could be w/w theatering (after i posted thoughts on mewt and herbe not being on the same team). so mmmaybe she was trying to make me suspicious of them again anyway. idk. it's not a well-founded thought, that's why it's a special summoned paranoia, but it is there.
anyway, qenya (for realsies this time, i have a vote, i swear) - if you're around toDay (pls ;w; ) i'd like to hear from you on your thought process re: the "if i flip red check your PMs" post, and i'd also like to hear what you're thinking about the state of the game in general. how are you feeling about Everybody Hated That on your poast how are you feeling about the votes and the flip.
i thiiiink as of right now i am also pretty blended/not sure on myuma vs wisper and don't have anywhere to start thinking about them. so i'm most concerned with qenya rn.
ok i sleep hopefully this covers all my thoughts up til now & hopefully i wake up before eod. cheers
mewtini
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judt woke up out of nowhere two hours earlier than i expected to (ty heatwave) and (unironically) one of the first thoughts that came to my mind is that i’m afraid i threw rnp into my townpile too quickly but i don’t know why i’m thinking that
writing for posterity/as a note to my future self to investigate. Gn
writing for posterity/as a note to my future self to investigate. Gn
mewtini
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isn’t EoD not today
mewtini
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also writing down so i don’t forget (ETA: i am fully just awake now. writing this woke me up. Fuck)
i was uncomfortable with how w!stryke came in to defend qenya against the flavor and at first i thought it was maybe just me tunneling hard because i was uneasy about qenya, but after the stryke flip, i’m feeling slightly bolder about it now. when i (re)reposted that other qenya-forgetting-stryke interaction (along w my comment about tinfoiling it) in my D2 entrance i was kind of hoping to prod qenya into talking about it (and expected her to come in before i felt up to casing her, or at least beginning to case her) but apparently 8am is the perfect time for me to do so,,????
[i only went through stryke’s iso for this, considering dead wolf spew and all]
:/
stryke’s iso is ten posts long. his first four posts are earlygame fluff, so it kinda ends up slimming down to … six posts to actually look at. the vast majority of those posts is spent talking about rnp meta or about qenya, and tbqh his progression on the latter just does not make sense to me no matter how hard i try. i don’t really know what that means — world A is that w!stryke was trying to whiteknight for v!qenya, world B is that w!stryke was trying to tie v!qenya’s name to his own/set up her miselim, and world C is that w!stryke was defending teammate w!qenya. i’m leaning toward the latter, admittedly partly because i think qenya would — even without stryke flipping — be my next SR.
it isn’t entirely that, though; i don’t totally believe that worlds A or B are approaches that w!stryke would go with, given that his meta leaned so heavily towards going totally under the radar and even though he did legit improve wrt upping his posting (especially considering he was wolf!), it seems like a huge meta shift to me for him to be making those plays at the same time as focusing on getting away from his lurkiness.
the last point is that i imagine someone could bring up the fact that, if w/w, qenya would have been voting her teammate when she didn’t really have to (i started the wagon, she was only the second person to jump on it and just never moved off) which i’m not sure what to think of but i also don’t think that it outweighs the rest of this really. like, within the w/w world, qenya could have a) been distancing/trying to gain cred, since she was under fire for so much of d1, b) been locked into moving away from an herbe vote because she was “swayed” by my posting, c) been a wolf PR deemed more valuable than stryke (or at least planned on being more active ingame than stryke), etc … i don’t know enough about qenya‘s strategy as wolf (specifically wish i knew that so i could judge the likelihood of A) but whatever tbh.
i was uncomfortable with how w!stryke came in to defend qenya against the flavor and at first i thought it was maybe just me tunneling hard because i was uneasy about qenya, but after the stryke flip, i’m feeling slightly bolder about it now. when i (re)reposted that other qenya-forgetting-stryke interaction (along w my comment about tinfoiling it) in my D2 entrance i was kind of hoping to prod qenya into talking about it (and expected her to come in before i felt up to casing her, or at least beginning to case her) but apparently 8am is the perfect time for me to do so,,????
[i only went through stryke’s iso for this, considering dead wolf spew and all]
stryke’s second game-relevant post (the first one was just him talking about rnp, which is more or less irrelevant to me right now).
stryke’s next post + qenya’s response … obviously i’ve already kind of obnoxiously posted this interaction twice but i don’t think anyone engaged with it anyway. this post is actually me when i’m a wolf and i’ve removed my teammates from my game spreadsheet but forget to add them back in for Public Posting fr. (this was confbias at first and i almost feel cringe posting and talking about it again now but w/e it fits in this constellation)oh shit im so sorry dude! i'm afraid so, literally didn't even notice i'd missed you. guess you're almost by definition in the "no strong feelings" section
cont from the same post. so … qenya continues to be the only person that stryke has voiced any suspicion about but he votes here (and, fwiw, herbe is just towncore for me now) — on the only other viable wagon.
stryke’s next substantially relevant post. i started writing down thoughts about this interaction but then i deleted them all and decided to go with:
:/
stryke’s iso is ten posts long. his first four posts are earlygame fluff, so it kinda ends up slimming down to … six posts to actually look at. the vast majority of those posts is spent talking about rnp meta or about qenya, and tbqh his progression on the latter just does not make sense to me no matter how hard i try. i don’t really know what that means — world A is that w!stryke was trying to whiteknight for v!qenya, world B is that w!stryke was trying to tie v!qenya’s name to his own/set up her miselim, and world C is that w!stryke was defending teammate w!qenya. i’m leaning toward the latter, admittedly partly because i think qenya would — even without stryke flipping — be my next SR.
it isn’t entirely that, though; i don’t totally believe that worlds A or B are approaches that w!stryke would go with, given that his meta leaned so heavily towards going totally under the radar and even though he did legit improve wrt upping his posting (especially considering he was wolf!), it seems like a huge meta shift to me for him to be making those plays at the same time as focusing on getting away from his lurkiness.
the last point is that i imagine someone could bring up the fact that, if w/w, qenya would have been voting her teammate when she didn’t really have to (i started the wagon, she was only the second person to jump on it and just never moved off) which i’m not sure what to think of but i also don’t think that it outweighs the rest of this really. like, within the w/w world, qenya could have a) been distancing/trying to gain cred, since she was under fire for so much of d1, b) been locked into moving away from an herbe vote because she was “swayed” by my posting, c) been a wolf PR deemed more valuable than stryke (or at least planned on being more active ingame than stryke), etc … i don’t know enough about qenya‘s strategy as wolf (specifically wish i knew that so i could judge the likelihood of A) but whatever tbh.
Herbe
the dave of guy
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- xe/xem (plural)
well it wasn’t yesterday
mewtini
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jesus christ that was so long. also i forgot to say that — one huge thing that makes stryke’s focus on qenya less weird is that when he came in, qenya was the main thread topic. but i still think that his voting around her is meh for qenya
ANYWAY now that i’ve gotten that out of the way i think my mind is Free to spend the rest of the Day looking at the rest of the game, lol — so i plan on doing pretty much that — but i wanted to get through stryke’s posts before i got too far away from d1.
ANYWAY now that i’ve gotten that out of the way i think my mind is Free to spend the rest of the Day looking at the rest of the game, lol — so i plan on doing pretty much that — but i wanted to get through stryke’s posts before i got too far away from d1.
mewtini
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? D2 started at (my) ~4:30pm yesterday, aren’t we less than 24h in
Herbe
the dave of guy
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just like me fr tbh tbh
Herbe
the dave of guy
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- xe/xem (plural)
ah shit yes that is what the definition of 24 hours is, fuck
mewtini
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love proofreading
JackPK
blame telegram
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OK thank you for this, bc in the chaos of EOD I somehow got the misimpression that RNP had switched wagons specifically to defend stryke and move him from definite-yeet to a rand, and I was reading w!RNP in that situation and was very confused by y'all townreading him, but looking at this I see now that RNP switching wagons was in fact the thing that put stryke in yeet danger
I feel a lot more comfortable with towncore RNP now
JackPK
blame telegram
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I also think those vote tallies look extremely towny for mewt (iirc that was kind of an arbitrary wagon looking for an alternative to the existing one, right? and I don't think there's a world where wolf is likely to do that to a fellow wolf) and mildly towny for qenya (being first to follow onto a wagon on a fellow wolf could be self-preservatory wolf but sounds slightly implausible to me but not out of the question)
Herbe
the dave of guy
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technically what i think it did was change the rand from qenya/stryke to herbe/stryke (me moving to Stryke to bump it from 3 to 4 meant that i was leaving Qenya which took her from 5 to 4)
i say this totally trusting rnptown tbh