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[Eifie]

oh yeah idk why i thought this was a vote fsr

but it is the same energy of “now that you have said a somewhat negative thing about xyz i am scumreading them”

Yeah, I gotcha. Not sure right now if it's more "town excited to find a lead" or "scum excited to find an opportunity to shade".

I hope I will be able to take firmer stances on people when we have more flips. >_>

 

[mewtini]

but it is the same energy of “now that you have said a somewhat negative thing about xyz i am scumreading them”

agree it's the same energy, but still want to reiterate that idk if it means almost anything coming out of rari so far. i still think they've acted really consistently, i just can't tell if it's due to being happy!town or opportunistic!scum. i also kind of believe that they just came around on gentle voting after you explained yourself earlier, so i still don't feel that weird about their otter vote? idk

 

[mewtini]

i also kind of believe that they just came around on gentle voting

in particular, iirc rari is new to mafia, so it seemed plausible to me reading through that they were just picking new things up as they went. sorry. i should probably take more time to consolidate my posts haha but i keep getting anxious about getting sniped and my posts becoming obsolete as i type them

 

[Eifie]

hmm, luckily I am totally masons with Keldeo so I don't actually have to consider this, but my impression from having seen Keldeo be mafia twice recently(ish) is that as mafia he likes to be seen doing work and having Very Deep Thoughts that are meant to look very towny in a sense of "I am totally a town who is totally probing extremely deeply into this thing because I am totally a town who cares", so if I wasn't masons with Keldeo this would actually make me lean more towards him being town, hehe.

Here's one example of this, along with an absolutely hilarious reaction: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forum...-The-Mafia-Championship?p=3522881#post3522881 (spoilers: he did not keep his word)

It's kind of hard to provide other examples because they tend to not make much sense without context, but it's a consistent pattern that I've noticed

 

[Novae]

being too nice >> being toxic

at a certain point is there really a difference

hard claim death miller that wins with the mafia btw

:wowee:

 

[mewtini]

at a certain point is there really a difference

:((((((((((((((((

 

[Novae]

:((((((((((((((((

look I’ve played with a certain person (seshas knows who) enough times to get annoyed at “omg guys why aren’t you being nice to everyone” attitudes

 

[Novae]

anyway back to catching up
on a side note because delay oneshot is a fantastic game

 

[Keldeo]

Relevant to some people's read on me: the low engagement is a function of me not having enough time to sit down with the thread and really drill in, which is true regardless of my alignment. I'll kick it up a notch soon(tm)

Oh, Eifie, I definitely don't think kokorico's read on me was opportunistic because e asked the question about whether we were actually masons (indicating that e was trying to get a read on me, imo) way before Rari expressed their suspicion on me. I don't know if having the read itself makes em towny per se, but maybe that buttresses your thoughts?

Tell me more about why mewtini is pocketing you? I think I'm maybe townreading her too but it's, like, literally all tone and she seems participatory and trying to figure stuff out.

@rari_teh and @kokorico both said that my later posting had them feeling better about me so I'm interested to hear what they mean by that / what made them think so, because my own perception is that I got less engaged later on.

 

[kyeugh]

agree it's the same energy, but still want to reiterate that idk if it means almost anything coming out of rari so far. i still think they've acted really consistently, i just can't tell if it's due to being happy!town or opportunistic!scum. i also kind of believe that they just came around on gentle voting after you explained yourself earlier, so i still don't feel that weird about their otter vote? idk

i mean that’s valid! i’m not saying it’s necessarily a scum thing but i don’t like the pattern being established and if something makes me feel weird i try not to be charitable with assuming their motivations if i don’t know them

 

[Novae]

hmm, luckily I am totally masons with Keldeo so I don't actually have to consider this, but my impression from having seen Keldeo be mafia twice recently(ish) is that as mafia he likes to be seen doing work and having Very Deep Thoughts that are meant to look very towny in a sense of "I am totally a town who is totally probing extremely deeply into this thing because I am totally a town who cares", so if I wasn't masons with Keldeo this would actually make me lean more towards him being town, hehe.

this is a good way to put it

I sort of saw it in his second(?) post but haven’t really been seeing it since

 

[Eifie]

Oh, Eifie, I definitely don't think kokorico's read on me was opportunistic because e asked the question about whether we were actually masons (indicating that e was trying to get a read on me, imo) way before Rari expressed their suspicion on me. I don't know if having the read itself makes em towny per se, but maybe that buttresses your thoughts?

Oh, I agree, I remembered that too.

Tell me more about why mewtini is pocketing you? I think I'm maybe townreading her too but it's, like, literally all tone and she seems participatory and trying to figure stuff out.

I mean I don't actually know if it's intentional but she basically expresses agreement with all my posts and likes 99% of my stuff which is basically the way to my heart because I live for The Adoration of the Masses. I feel way too biased to do anything but townread her at this point. :p

 

[rari_teh]

I think kyeugh has sort of said a few things I was thinking so yeah maybe @rari_teh could tell us a bit more about how their opinion on votes has changed over the course of the day and why?

It hasn’t changed much really. What I could say that changed is that before qva’s move on Seshas, I didn’t consider the possibility of a strategy that included temporarily voting on someone you weren’t almost sure to be aligned to the side you oppose (still, I wouldn’t be comfortable in using such a strategy).

Better explaining, I use my votes as a way of signaling “that’s a person I find highly likely to be scum. Let’s discuss so that either I change my mind before the deadline or more people vote on that person.” That’s why I said to Keldeo about Eifie voting on Odie_Pie:

I supported abstaining first because I think it may not be wise to kill off somebody who has a higher chance to be town than mafia – we know absolutely nothing about her and there are more townsfolk than mafiosi. But then again, if she doesn’t show up on d1 at all and nobody knows her outside of the site, might as well kill the inactive.

Which brings us to another question…

but it is the same energy of “now that you have said a somewhat negative thing about xyz i am scumreading them”

I can see how one could read me like that, but that wasn’t it. Like I said, I didn’t consider the possibility of a strategy that included temporarily voting on someone you weren’t almost sure to be aligned to the side you oppose. Meaning that, in yesterday’s rari’s head, qva votes on town = qva scum. Still I didn’t think that was enough to vote on you.

oh yeah idk why i thought this was a vote fsr

Maybe you view votes more lightly than I do?

(I hope I don’t screw up formatting this time)

 

[kyeugh]

hard read keldeo and eif are scum and them talking about mason chat is actually a huge power move

 

[kyeugh]

rari i was feeling better about you bc of what mewt has said in your defense but that post kind of makes me feel worse again

 

[mewtini]

rari i was feeling better about you bc of what mewt has said in your defense but that post kind of makes me feel worse again

can you explain this more?

 

[mewtini]

which is basically the way to my heart because I live for The Adoration of the Masses.

bruh i thought we had a bond. this is literally like finding out you're only liked because you're rich

 

[mewtini]

bruh i thought we had a bond. this is literally like finding out you're only liked because you're rich

 

[Zori]

Rari is probably town since scum, especially newb scum, is less likely to throw their full weight into a wagon so early in its formation I think

 

[kyeugh]

can you explain this more?

you saying that their vote was just them learning/adopting the pressure vote from my move on seshas made me feel better about it but in that last post they say outright:

Better explaining, I use my votes as a way of signaling “that’s a person I find highly likely to be scum. Let’s discuss so that either I change my mind before the deadline or more people vote on that person.”

and that is in the present tense