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Oh yeah, I bothered to actually read the page for A God Am I and okay bodyguard does not fit that. I wonder if it could be something like he martyrs himself (takes the kill that night) in order to ~ascend~ and achieve something after his death?
Or maybe the mafia just plain killed him but what is that satisfied smile smh
There was a moment at night I came very close to logging in just to call for this. I feel like there hasn’t been enough thought put into the composition of his wagon.that, and also, investigating the ILS wagon for scum hopping on the opportunity; I haven't been able to get around to that task yet but you're all invited-
mewtini votes I liek Squirtles (#1092) | ILS 1 × 1 Otter (Largest: Keldeo, Odie_Pie (2)) |
Boquise votes I liek Squirtles (#1141) | ILS 2 × 1 Otter (Largest: Keldeo, Odie_Pie, ILS (2)) |
Herbe votes I liek Squirtles (#1211) | ILS 3 × 2 Otter |
Keldeo votes I liek Squirtles (#1254) | ILS 4 × 3 Otter |
Mawile votes I liek Squirtles (#1256) | ILS 5 × 3 Otter |
Negrek votes I liek Squirtles (#1258) | ILS 6 × 3 Otter |
Keldeo votes Ottercopter (#1262) | ILS 5 × 4 Otter |
Boquise votes Ottercopter (#1263) | ILS 4 × 5 Otter |
Ottercopter votes I liek Squirtles (#1353) | ILS 5 × 6 Otter |
kyeugh votes I liek Squirtles (#1406) | ILS 6 × 4 Otter |
Keldeo votes I liek Squirtles (#1432) | ILS 7 × 3 Otter |
Ottercopter votes abstain (#1459) | ILS 6 × 5 Otter |
mewtini votes Ottercopter (#1463) | ILS 5 × 6 Otter |
kyeugh votes Ottercopter (#1465) | ILS 4 × 6 Otter |
mewtini votes I liek Squirtles (#1473) | ILS 5 × 4 Otter |
just to reiterate if it is ILS/Otter both as villagers (or Otter as 3p, eitherway) there probably wouldn't be a lot of pressure for mafia to actually be on the wagon since it was sitting that way for quite some time before EOD and no one on their team would've been in immediate danger
tbf yes it is pretty much classic rnp play to sort of just dick around, and he is basically always read as scum. except actually i think he tries a bit harder when he’s scum bc people are relying on him. so that’s something.RNP just seems like, benign to me. Like weird, yes, but maybe that's just how he operates.
i think i'm solidly pro-herbe
i don’t like this tbhSorry, I’ll stay hush for the moment D:
I’m afraid of taking a misstep and then be accused of Wrongful Shade™, or worse, convincing a majority of their guilt and cause yet another wrongful death. I’ll be dredging up my sus’s post history, though, maybe I can grasp onto something…
imo the counterpoint is that it’s not impossible or even implausible that these things all happened to vm, and just dumping the information into chat and then leaving is probably the LEAST schemey/scummy way to deal with it. stryke’s case here (against a probable doctor btw) is basically “this guy has a lot of information (... like 2 information) that people react strongly to. ergo scum” which honestly makes me regard stryke more suspiciously than vmI’ve been trying to cook up a good counterpoint to this but I kinda… can’t?
agree with this. i get weird vibes from the fact that everyone kind of dropped the discussion of the only new information we got overnight bc they settled on some lukewarm idea of what his role might have been, and then got right back into pushing on random inactives. i really feel like a wolf might have been steering the narrative there honestly. weird vibes.Oh yeah, I bothered to actually read the page for A God Am I and okay bodyguard does not fit that. I wonder if it could be something like he martyrs himself (takes the kill that night) in order to ~ascend~ and achieve something after his death?
Or maybe the mafia just plain killed him but what is that satisfied smile smh
Still, during this discussion, I invite everybody to print this Panini quote out and hang on the wall for easy reference:
Good point. Maybe we should start steering our attentions towards people who are always there, but not quite? As in, present enough not to be considered inactive, yet not so active that would be too hard to participate at the mafia chat at the same time?i think if they were scum their teammates might issue them to post more if anything given the trend of falling back on inactives
The moment I wrote that I was going to keep my suspicions for myself for the time being, I thought “oh boy, qva is sure gonna have a problem with this”. I guess I was right.i don’t like this tbh
I completely agree.the entire serimachi thing seems like lot of hot air to me honestly. i don’t really buy it at all and i think scum leans based on their like four posts is very much grasping at the straws and i dislike how little skepticism there seemed to be about it
I think you didn’t get this one right. Back in the 2nd day of D1, as I signed off, I noted there was one person who was in a PM, but it’s not like I’m stalking people and noting what they are doing. As I said at the moment, my cursor rested on the username and I noticed they were in a PM. I didn’t even say who that was bc that indeed would be shit-stirring for no good reason.is rari the same person who was looking at people’a forum activity and noting who was in PMs earlier? that + the checking how long people have been registered on tcod thing (??)... i really don’t like this energy
I subscribe to this.imo the counterpoint is that it’s not impossible or even implausible that these things all happened to vm, and just dumping the information into chat and then leaving is probably the LEAST schemey/scummy way to deal with it. stryke’s case here (against a probable doctor btw) is basically “this guy has a lot of information (... like 2 information) that people react strongly to. ergo scum” which honestly makes me regard stryke more suspiciously than vm
I still don’t buy that she’s innocent. Those moves at the end of d1… idk man, “I misread my rolecard and I’m actually useful to town” seems like a very cheap way out.I think you've answered your own question on why people don't seem to care that much about the wagon formation. At least that's why I don't care at all at the moment. I would be pretty surprised if Ottercopter was an in-group mafia.
Not in-group mafia doesn't mean innocent. It just means "not known to the mafia".I still don’t buy that she’s innocent. Those moves at the end of d1… idk man, “I misread my rolecard and I’m actually useful to town” seems like a very cheap way out.
whatcha need tbhgotta love when most of your mech clears can't be bothered to post in the thread
@Mist1422 @Mr. Ultracool plz.
i mean i understand what you're doing i just don't really like the whole, like, using out-of-game information thing to form the basis for a read i guessI think you didn’t get this one right. Back in the 2nd day of D1, as I signed off, I noted there was one person who was in a PM, but it’s not like I’m stalking people and noting what they are doing. As I said at the moment, my cursor rested on the username and I noticed they were in a PM. I didn’t even say who that was bc that indeed would be shit-stirring for no good reason.
The checking how long people have been registered on tcod thing was in the context of explaining how serimachi could easily know that there are both veterans and newbies in this game, as mewtini speculated that was a sign he was interacting in the mafia chat.
i mean it's never too late! i don't really understand the point in keeping them to yourself? who does that benefit? simply say your opinions tbhThe moment I wrote that I was going to keep my suspicions for myself for the time being, I thought “oh boy, qva is sure gonna have a problem with this”. I guess I was right.
Thoughtswhatcha need tbh
who should i vote forwhatcha need tbh
If I’m wrong, it benefits either who I’m suspecting of (who might get themself into a lynchtrain) or me (who might be seen as gratuitously throwing shade at somebody above suspicion, ergo scum)i mean it's never too late! i don't really understand the point in keeping them to yourself? who does that benefit? simply say your opinions tbh
i mean yeah but those are just risks of participating in the game innitIf I’m wrong, it benefits either who I’m suspecting of (who might get themself into a lynchtrain) or me (who might be seen as gratuitously throwing shade at somebody above suspicion, ergo scum)
If I’m right, with all gut feelings and zero solid evidence, spilling might make me a target for the mafia
mmhm, that was supposed to be a reductio ad absurdum, not a fos: "that would mean VM was lying, which doesn't make sense for multiple reasons".I'm really wary of FoSing VM right now because he seems more plausible a doc than not (I think that's been a couple people's consensus yeah? in this discussion) and I will literally go stupid and go crazy if we mislynch a second doc.
Sure, but Boquise was/is clearly far more experienced/a greater threat than either of us. In any case I wasn't saying mafia!Keldeo would probably have targeted him - tbh even if he were mafia I don't think he'd be so transparent as to go after his detractor(s) straight away - more just questioning why he wasn't mentioned at all, except by M&F, when people were talking about "who did boq suspect?"Just right out of the bat, I can remember both you and I also expressed suspicions of Keldeo at some point in d1, and I’m pretty sure there was at least one more person who did so.
you. I like you.an unavoidable egg or chicken situation