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Gym Leaders

Absol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Houndoom
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Actually, Absol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other Pokémon.

And yeah, Claire and Cynthia are cool also.
 
First, I'd like to say that Whitney was pure. Evil. Especially if your roster consisted of something like Quilava, Bellsprout/Weepinbell, Spinarak, and Noctowl.

I like Karen, because of the 'use Pokemon you like' thing. Cynthia was probably the most fun to battle. But as for a gym leader, I rather liked Claire. Her Kingdra gave me one hell of a challenge, and I found her little tantrum after you beat her rather amusing.
 
Why all the Houndoom hate? Remember the Gold Pokedex entry says the pain from the burns it inflicts never go away. I'd be careful not to anger it.

Koga was awesome 'cuz ninjas > everything (but Houndoom).
 
It's not Houndoom hate, it's Absol love.

And I have a hard time liking *any* Johto Elite Four member because I battled them 50 Freaking Times to get a lv100 Tyranitar. >:-(
 
I love Absol too, but Houndoom more. Darks in general are awesome.

Koga is also extra awesome because he was a Leader AND an E4 member. Plus he uses Venomoth. Win for Koga. Yeah, I have a tendency to like NPCs who use my favorites.
 
glitchedgamer said:
If the Elite Four count, Karen. She is a Dark-type user, my favorite type, and believes in winning with your favorites, not just with the strongest Pokemon, which is something I firmly stand by. Sidney is a dork. Oh, and she has a Houndoom! =D

Leader-wise, either Morty or Fantina. Ghost Pokemon rule! Fantina may have the edge because she uses a Mismagius, another one of my favorites. Why do they refuse to make a Dark Gym?

Can we say which Leaders we hate? Here's mine: WHITNEY AND HER FUCKING MILTANK. I'm playing through Crystal again and just reached Goldenrod. I am dreading that battle.
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Slartibartfast said:
Whitney is evil.
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glitchedgamer said:
Nowadays, Whitney isn't really a problem, but she is still a decent challenge. I think most of us remember being 7 years old and just being decimated by Miltank. I plan on just using a Quagsire to absorb Rollout when I battle her in my Crystal replay. Miltank was the first Pokemon I fought with a recovery move, and it pissed me off. That, and my only useable Pokemon was Quilava...freakin' Rollout...

Can't wait to kick her ass in the 4th Generation...

And Houndoom >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absol. Karen wins.
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blazheirio889 said:
First, I'd like to say that Whitney was pure. Evil. Especially if your roster consisted of something like Quilava, Bellsprout/Weepinbell, Spinarak, and Noctowl.

I like Karen, because of the 'use Pokemon you like' thing. Cynthia was probably the most fun to battle. But as for a gym leader, I rather liked Claire. Her Kingdra gave me one hell of a challenge, and I found her little tantrum after you beat her rather amusing.
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I found her easy.

Machop is <3333 in this situation.

(You can trade a Drowzee for one in the Goldenrod Mart.)
 
rock-ground said:
I found her easy.

Machop is <3333 in this situation.

(You can trade a Drowzee for one in the Goldenrod Mart.)
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Duh.

I don't especially love a Gym Leader in particular, but if I have to choose I'd choose Blaine cuz a) the gym "walkthough" actually provides kind of a challenge, instead of just blasting my way through the junior trainers (gah I love that questionary thing), b) he trains Fire-types and c) he has an Arcanine.
 
If Elite Four counts, then definitely Drake. Not only does he use Dragon-types, he's the only major Dragon-trainer that has a good variety of Pokemon, and he has that cool sailor/pirate look.

If I'm forced to pick a gym leader, then Volkner. He's just too cool.
 
In the Gym Leader department, I'm in serious doubt between Lt. Surge and Wake Crasher Wake. Both are kickass in their own ways.

As for Elite Fours, I briefly laugh when Agatha gives her opinion about Professor Oak. But, my favorite is Lucian. I just like how he gets fierce without letting his elegance slip.

And on the Karen vs. Sidney debate, I agree with the "win with your favorites speech", but I don't like how easily I swatted through just switching between my Feraligatr and my ass-kicking Hitmonlee (pardon the pun). Sidney, on the other hand, is a fun way to start an Elite 4 challenge. So, regardless of Pokémon, I like him the best.

Also, IMO, Shiftry = Crawdaunt > Houndoom = Absol. Boy, am I going to get flamed. :P
 
^ Damn straight you are! No one messes with 'Doom!!!! Although Crawdaunt is awesome...Shiftry is "meh." Cut Karen some slack...Her team may have been easy, but their wasn't exactly an abundance of Dark Types back then. Hell, she didn't even use Sneasel.
 
glitchedgamer said:
Cut Karen some slack...Her team may have been easy, but their wasn't exactly an abundance of Dark Types back then. Hell, she didn't even use Sneasel.
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Which would make her an easy candidate for an Elite four in any position but the fourth, from which I expect some degree of challenge. I even typically have a harder time with Lucian than I do with Cynthia, both in D/P and Platinum.
 
Maybe they just though it would be hard since this was really the first time you had to face a Dark trainer, and that back in 2000 people didn't know how to handle the new type. I don't know...
 
Well, you have a point. She could work as a surprise attacker.

And maybe it's just a coincidence or something that I had just the two right things to beat her.
 
Metallica Fanboy said:
Well, you have a point. She could work as a surprise attacker.

And maybe it's just a coincidence or something that I had just the two right things to beat her.
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I sure as hell didn't know Dark was weak to Fighting when I was 7 O_o. Then again, I just ran through the E4 with my grossly overleveled Typhlosion my first time anyway.
 
Metallica Fanboy said:
Which would make her an easy candidate for an Elite four in any position but the fourth, from which I expect some degree of challenge. I even typically have a harder time with Lucian than I do with Cynthia, both in D/P and Platinum.
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Lucian was one of the easiest in D/P, followed by Flint.

I think the reason Karen's last is because of both the fact that Dark types are new and rarely anyone knew of the weaknesses, and that only 3 of her Pokemon are Dark and even then Murkrow counters both weaknesses.

Not to mention the former presence of Psychic types as invincible back in Gen. I.
 
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