North Korea is funnier.
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Send Justin Bieber to North Korea
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North Korea is funnier.
Not Meowth
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...no wait it's a continent. Are there even any countries in it? No bugger lives there :l
Ryan the Terrible
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Still, a concert for the penguins wouldn't be a bad idea one of these days.
No there aren't.
It's in 26th place. :D
Vladimir Putin's LJ
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I'm not trying to be a derp but I don't really see why this is funny. The BBC article is sort of humorous but all in all I don't get it. You'd have to be pretty stupid to be scared of just going to North Korea ?_? I'd seize the opportunity to visit it if it presented itself tbh.
I don't know, it seems weird to wail on this one guy and call his mother a whore and say he died and/or has a VD just because he's one of the many mediocre singers targeted at children.
I don't know, it seems weird to wail on this one guy and call his mother a whore and say he died and/or has a VD just because he's one of the many mediocre singers targeted at children.
departuresong
Bouncing Off Clouds
I find North Korea strangely fascinating, too. Have you seen this documentary? It's crazy.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
There's an amazing /trv/ thread, too.
Because that's exactly why people hate him. You nailed it!ridiculous person above me said:
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How ~revolutionary~
He has legions of thirteen year old fans who genuinely don't care if their favourite pop artists wrote their music, and it's not exactly new. Laughing at Justin Bieber is hardly going to solve this 'problem'.
This is why I love the BBC. :'D
ProgMetal_64
Don't expect to see much of me for a few months.
Exactly. The real problem now is that people won't stop whining about him. To all the "die-hard Bieber the haters", no one is forcing you to listen to his music. Just forget about it and get on with your life. Seriously. All this complaining gets really old really fast.
lol because I'm trying to be revolutionary
also I never claimed that simply laughing at him would fix shit. can you really blame someone for trying, though?
another thing
I haven't really been exposed to all this "constant complaining" that everyone is talking about. I only ever hear about justin bieber when I'm being exposed to his music. honestly I don't hear shit about it and everything that I've said in this thread was independent thought, not copied off some justin bieber hatesite that I guess you guys think exists. if they do exist well good for them but there are better ways to try to inject some sort of change.
Karkat Vantas
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My problem with Bieber isn't that he's so popular; my problem with him is that he's not a good musician. Just because everyone likes a band/artist or their songs play on the radio all the time doesn't mean it's bad (case in point: Lady Gaga), but Justin Bieber cannot make music for shit. And that is why I hate him.
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Apparently complaining about Justin Bieber will stop people who don't write their own music becoming 'the standard for tomorrow's music'? Like goldenquagsire said this kind of music has been going on for a long time.
This kind of thing isn't going to get rid of Bieber, it's just going to make him even more topical than he already is.
Sorry, pretty much the only time I hear anything about this Bieber guy is negative, I think it's just a UK thing where there is actually nobody who likes him here apart from my little sister for some reason.
I've never met anyone who dislikes him because they genuinely believe that musicians shouldn't be respected if they don't write their own music or any actual acceptable reason, so excuse me if your thoughts were indeed independent. It feels like Twilight all over again; I wish people would just ignore fads they hate instead of making them last longer by constantly yammering on about how much they think it sucks.
well see my line of reasoning is as follows: genuine discussion and criticism of justin bieber and similar artists becomes widespread (instead of just LOL I HATE JB CUZ HE SUCKS AND HE'S POPULAR which I don't think I've ever resorted to); people begin to actually realize "hey, this isn't what music should really be"; talented artists (and maybe criticized artists that change their ways) begin to become widely listened to and begin to take the spotlight in the place of artists such as justin bieber; less bad and relatively meaningless music is made, and the music industry faces some sort of cleansing.
am I really that far out there? is there a problem with me saying "this media sucks and I want something to be done"?
I consider this a fairly important social issue even if most people don't, and I know that you certainly wouldn't advocate just sitting around and ignoring a social issue instead of doing something about it, right? I see this sort of like corporations coming in and looking over, say, a painter's back, and telling him what to paint. and then it's mass produced and everyone buys one when it's just shit and not actually art.
departuresong
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No, and I completely agree with you - as I tried to make clear in my last post, I was uncertain as to whether you were actually putting across serious independent thought or not.
Fair enough; again, I agree with you (the people I don't agree with are those who are complaining about Bieber and using reasons like this to justify themselves, but don't actually care about the issue and just enjoy hating something popular). Over-produced, unimaginative guff like Bieber's 'music' shouldn't be popular or respected - I don't consider it a massive issue, though, and I think it's more of a case of getting people to realise that music people actually make themselves tends to be better and more wholesome rather than paying attention to Bieber himself, because people like him are always going to be around. Most people do tend to grow out of stuff like Bieber.
Then again there are some people who genuinely don't care that much and just listen to what they want to or are exposed to - I say just leave them alone and hope they stop giving Bieber's producers money in the end.
Ugh, I hate writing 'Bieber'. It's such a horrid name. :(
Oh God, is 'Bieber Fever' an actual phrase? That's going to give me nightmares. :C
ProgMetal_64
Don't expect to see much of me for a few months.
Coming from another musician's standpoint, I agree with you that he isn't a very good songwriter (if he even writes his own music). In today's mainstream music, it's not musicianship that the target audience is looking for, it's catchiness. They don't care how bad the music or the lyrics are, if it's something you can dance to, it catches on. Every music audience has a different definition of "good song-writing."
Here's what I'm getting at: Take some Bieber fans and have them listen something like Slayer. What will they say? Something like: "You call THAT music? It's just noise! Those guys can't write music!" Isn't that what you just said about Bieber?
Bottom line is that people will like what they want and dislike what they want. Complaining about the stuff you don't like will get you nowhere.
Now here's where my problem with Bieber lies. It's not that the music is bad, it's that it's POPULAR. And simply complaining about it will do nothing, the real solution is much more complex. More good musicians need to get out there, make a name for themselves, and show the music industry who's boss. But with the standard of today's music, that is much easier said then done. Like I said earlier, I don't want this kind of music to be the standard. I could care less if this music still around (and there always will be people around to make it and to buy it), and let's face it, this kind of music will always be popular (unless some sort of miracle happens). I just don't want it to be as popular as it is.
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bieber and slayer have some serious fundamental differences. slayer writes about the things they do for a particular reason, to get people to seriously consider the topics and *think* - to someone not used to that sort of music, you might just see "lol serial killers" or "lol satan fuck religion" but there's really something under that that is appreciable. bieber on the other hand may or may not write songs about "love", partying, and probably more "love". there's nothing to be considered or pondered upon - it's solely based upon making the audience go "awwww" when he says something cute.
it's almost like you didn't read the thread, because I said most of this (and what I didn't say, cirrus said) and you're almost part of the problem.
goldenquagsire
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except this is not happening. no-one is watching over the backs of Generic Obscure Metal Band #24235 and telling them to make their music more populist. they're just using people like Bieber, and do you honestly think they'd make worthwhile music by themselves?
you're probably right but honestly to god lol taking metal seriously.
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Why do you just assume that? Making him a laughing stock might well discourage people from listening to him. Whatever happens, it will do his popularity more harm than good.
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