Snom Mafia

[Tangrowth]

Mewtini, can you go a little more into the tonal differences between Cats Superjolt and here Superjolt? I may be excusing the depth difference too much because of the different circumstances, but I do think the circumstances are different enough... going off memory and like a 5-minute ISO skim of Cats, so I’ll dive back into that if I have time.


ftr, from what I know, MP7 has a high volume ceiling as both alignments. My impression is that her volume is much more indicative of her time to play than her alignment.

If she is “powerwolfing” (townreading partners and scumreading town), that doesn’t bode well for my reads because I think we have pretty similar ones, heh. Of course mafia might be conscious of their popularity, though.

This is a selfish thing and I realize EoD is pending, so we can talk about this later, but... I will absolutely need you to talk about your read on me more. Then again, I've been purposefully pushing my read of you to the back of my brain repeatedly, so I don't want to hold you to an unfair standard. Let's circle back.

 

[Trebek]

actually, hot take:

if the wagons are v/v, who is currently not voting? this is sorta what i was thinking of when i made the post ™ that seems to be getting quoted a lot

if wagons are v/v mafia know their popularity will go down so they might try to avoid voting and let town self destruct

 

[mewtini]

i probably don't have time to dig atm but i think he threw way more shade in cats than he did in tvt. in tropes i remember him posting sort of, like, naively - stuff like "eifie seems like an alien" because she joked around so much, making overliteral reads, etc. which he didn't really do in cats (instead trying to shade VM for asking skylar about why she said "i know who the vig is," going back and forth on emmy)

 

[Trebek]

yeah, i highly doubt that the wagons are w/w, bc if they were i feel like at least one of them would be “self defense” pushing the other.

and honestly even if it is v/v idk where else i would want to hang a vote on right now

tempted to switch my vote after reading all of the posts about it, and honestly was tempted to vote there in the first place, but i want to hang onto even wagons for a bit longer, since there’s still a fair bit of time :p

What did you glean from reactions / vote movement after you made the wagons even?

nothing much yet, which is why i’m staying here for now

 

[Novae]

What are the wagons tbh

 

[Tangrowth]

actually, hot take:

if the wagons are v/v, who is currently not voting? this is sorta what i was thinking of when i made the post ™ that seems to be getting quoted a lot

if wagons are v/v mafia know their popularity will go down so they might try to avoid voting and let town self destruct

I'm not even sure I agree with this, but I like the thought.

 

[Tangrowth]

What are the wagons tbh

Superjolt and Ultracool 3/3 I believe. There is a bit of concern that they are v/v, but both slots are... probably always in the POE.

 

[mewtini]

What are the wagons tbh

superjolt and ultracool, wagons are tied

 

[Novae]

Oh UC and Jolt

lemme look

 

[Trebek]

actually, hot take:

if the wagons are v/v, who is currently not voting? this is sorta what i was thinking of when i made the post ™ that seems to be getting quoted a lot

if wagons are v/v mafia know their popularity will go down so they might try to avoid voting and let town self destruct

I'm not even sure I agree with this, but I like the thought.

i don’t think it’s a catch-all “people who aren’t voting are mafia”, i just want to have things to mull over during the night phase, and this seemed like an interesting point

 

[Zori]

mewtini votes Seshas [->1] (#14)
Mist1422 votes Seshas [->2] (#19)
mewtini votes Seshas -> Eifie [1->1] (#63)
Trebek votes Stealth Rock [->1] (#111)
Trebek votes Stealth Rock -> mewtini [0->1] (#216)
Trebek unvotes mewtini [0->] (#217)
mewtini votes Eifie -> kyeugh [0->1] (#219)
mewtini unvotes kyeugh [0->] (#223)
Trebek votes Seshas [->2] (#226)
Trebek unvotes Seshas [1->] (#243)
Keldeo votes Superjolt [->1] (#317)

Hey Seshas, I get that the bold entries are active votes, but is there any meaning to the italicised ones?

oops, this isn’t my dm with the gms.

thank you mewtini for ninja'ing me with a correct votecount because I was about to post a wrong one

Votecount (#664):
Superjolt | 3 | Ysabel (#362), M Plus 7 (#570), mewtini (#575)
Mr. Ultracool | 3 | Keldeo (#574), Trebek (#584), kokorico (#644)

Spoiler: Vote History

Trebek votes mewtini [->1] (#216)
Trebek unvotes mewtini [0->] (#217)
mewtini votes kyeugh [->1] (#219)
mewtini unvotes kyeugh [0->] (#223)
Keldeo votes Superjolt [->1] (#317)
Ysabel votes Superjolt [->2] (#362)
M Plus 7 votes Trebek [->1] (#407)
M Plus 7 votes Trebek -> kokorico [0->1] (#467)
Keldeo unvotes Superjolt [1->] (#517)
M Plus 7 unvotes kokorico [0->] (#532)
M Plus 7 votes Superjolt [->2] (#570)
Keldeo votes Mr. Ultracool [->1] (#574)
mewtini votes Superjolt [->3] (#575)
Trebek votes Mr. Ultracool [->2] (#584)
kokorico votes Mr. Ultracool [->3] (#644)

10 minutes remain in day.
No changes have been made since this votecount.

 

[Tangrowth]

Actually, I just found a reason Keldeo is town. I'm very uncharacteristically holding it close to my chest for now. Just trust me on this. I'll re-evaluate if necessary, but nah, Keldeo can definitely be town.

 

[Novae]

So options are a 0-poster or someone who has not been particularly scummy

Hmm.

 

[Zori]

so um
that happened
ignore the top two quotes

 

[Tangrowth]

@Mr. Ultracool

Please grace us with your presence! It would be awesome!

 

[Keldeo]

Townreads but be wary: mewtini, kokorico, Blu, MP7
Julia: Julia
Tonal memes read: kyeugh, sanderidge
Hmm: Mist, Superjolt, Ysabel, Trebek, Ultracool
?????

btw I think Mist pointing out stuff like not talking about the popularity to stop scum from PR hunting was pro-town / "helpful" (in a mostly-NAI way probably) and I'm curious why @Ysabel didn't think so.

 

[mewtini]

someone who has not been particularly scummy

i think this sort of comparison between jolt's early catsgame and here is what makes me lean here, if it helps

 

[Tangrowth]

i'm actually going to go to sleep now, lol. not sure if i'll be back before EoD because i have stuff from like, 12 until 3pm/EoD and it's like 4am so who knows if i'll get up significantly earlier tbh. so i'll vibe on superjolt (still irked by his reads before and the tonal difference between those and the catsposting) and hopefully make it back in time for everything

I admit my reads aren’t great, but that’s where I’m at. I’m kind of just really having a hard time reading everyone here, despite partially playing in/spectating Cats I still don’t really know anyone here that well yet and then there’s even players here that weren’t even in Cats. I was already kind of struggling with how I wanted to approach things in this game but being hit with a wave of exhaustion has just kind of killed it for me... I’ve slept a total of maybe 7 hours the past few nights combined

Kind of just looking at the thread and trying to think about things but my brain is like “nope” so I’m kind of frustrated

Trying to read but kind of skipped chunks of the thread, but uh did anyone have anything for me that I might’ve missed?

I think I don't want to be on Superjolt anymore. This reads genuine.

 

[Novae]

T O N A L M E M E S R E A D

anywayat first glance I like trebek bringing up the point about mafia not voting tbh

 

[Keldeo]

Sure, MP, hold me to talking more about you later. I'm also interested in what your tell on me is about.

Townreads but be wary: mewtini, kokorico, Blu, MP7

The be wary header here is because I have not seen mewtini, Blu, or MP play as mafia firsthand. And kokorico did the thing I found towny only once - I'm not going to talk about it yet because I want to see if e keeps doing it.