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The LGBT Club

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There's a thing going on in chicago this weekend for it and I wish I could come but we don't go into the city very much.

Though dad had offered to take me into chicago. I shoulda taken it. SURPRISE!



let's bag these up



I wish I could recognize it somehow -- like kids do for the day of silence, at school -- but I dunno how, especially not without people going LOL R U GAY or something cause kids r dum. But it would be cool ... and thursdays are the days I meet with my counselor and a group of girls -- 'women's issues,' lolol. -- so I dunno I feel like that's important.

Also I love dashes like I'm some sort of emily dickinson spawn, what is wrong with me.
 
My dad wouldn't let me go to school if they recognized that day. >> As a school, they don't, but a lot of kids did last year. I just told him they don't and left the room quickly.
 
Watch thiiiiis~

A straight person appealing to other straight people to speak out against the injustice and general crap-ness of Prop 8. Awesome, no?

I want to marry Keith Olbermann now (see what I did there?)
 
Guh that is a great video. It makes me really wanna get involved with the glbt community, to help and be part of the big group... he words it in an amazing way. I want to applaud this guy and then send the video to everyone I know. The way how at the end he looks like he isn't just saying this cause it's written down but because he means it... thanks for sharing, really.
 
Dannichu said:
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Keith Olbermann is an amazing speaker. This really motivates me to get more involved in the LGBT community, like Verne, and I really do hope I'll be able to do this very soon.
I'm so sad for California. It really is horribly unfair and wrong. I hope the people who voted 'yes' will feel terrible at some point because they deserve to feel as miserable as possible for removing a minority's basic human rights.

I've really been trying to depress myself this evening, what with videos like this (it made me cry, haha vlad is overly emotional), re-reading things about Matthew Shepard and Brandon Teena and watching WBC clips. Ugh.

I really want to get one of those t-shirts Stonewall's producing, like this. Education For All is a great campaign and I regret it not being talked about in my school.
 
Haha, they made a t-shirt of that? I remember at one point they had massive billboards with that poster on all over London (and presumeably elsewhere, but I don't travel much). My friend's also got a small poster version (with the Welsh translation underneath) that her mum sent her on her wall.

The WBC are so, so crazy they don't even anger me anymore. They've gone so off the scale of "what the hell are they thinking; human beings aren't capable of that kind of disgusting behaviour", I can't take them seriously. I think it's some kind of defence mechanism. >>

I really should get involved with something LGBTish, too; I joined the university's society for it, but I keep missing meetings because I'm too busy watching House and 24 with my housemates.
The gay movement isn't as big over here as in the US; granted, we don't have marriage, which is annoying as hell, but we get all the rights and the general public is much, much more accepting, but a lot could be done in schools and with young people.
I'd really love to do some kind of support work with young LGBTQ people; when I was 14-15, I was so, so grateful for the Internet; I would've felt completely alone otherwise.
 
Dannichu said:
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This video is amazing.

It made me smile. It gave me hope. And here is why.

They write in the history books about how African Americans were oppressed, of the horrors the Native Americans were subjected to, the terrible conquests of Mexico and South America. As a country in general, we've gotten past racial differences. There are individuals who have not, but they are restrained by law. Yes, many minorities now have the basic human rights that they once did not. Ones many of us take for granted every day.

But what of Homosexuals? Children don't learn about them in history books. In fact many adolescents primarily know the word "Gay" as a negative slang term, and associate Gay people as such. It's horrid, to walk through the streets of my own teeny-tiny little city, and listen to these children saying, "That's so gay!" without even realizing what they are really saying, or who they could be hurting. I see a child being bullied, which is horrible enough, and being called a "homo" or a "fag". I cry a little inside.

Why do we, as humans, hate others for who we may love? Shouldn't we embrace the ability to love at all? In a world with so much hate, why must we push away the rare emotion of love? Why can those who are opposed to it keep their mouths shut? To all the Christians opposed to Gay Marriage out there, I say, did Jesus not teach to love? To hate the sin, but love the sinner?

It's reasons like this that I've lost almost all faith in humanity. But it's places like this that give me a bit of hope, too. And videos like this. Thank you for sharing, Dannichu.

That was, in essence, my response to that video. It turned into kind of an essay/ramble, didn't it? And yes, by the way, I realize that Christianity is not the only religion opposed to same-sex marriage. I could probably find and equivalent statement for most other religions.
 
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That video was amazing. I agree with Dinru; those are the only type of things that give me hope. :(

And also, not to be mean or anything, but why are "gay," "homo," and "fag" capitalized?
 
EvilCrazyMonkey said:
That video was amazing. I agree with Dinru; those are the only type of things that give me hope. :(

And also, not to be mean or anything, but why are "gay," "homo," and "fag" capitalized?
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I have no idea, it just sort of came out that way. I'm going to go uncapitalize them.
 
Dinru, I agree with you ever so much. So many people are deluded and ignorant, and pretty much shaped by society to hate gay people.
When I was younger, I didn't really know what gay people were. I heard them mentioned negatively, and heard my schoolmates calling each other gay.
I kind of feared gay people, because I didn't know anything about them. I wish it wasn't like that for children. I wish society didn't make gay people out as creepy, or weird.
 
Oh speaking of which you know what's awesome


THE NEWS IS TALKING ABOUT THOMAS BEATTY AGAIN! hurray why can't they just leave the poor guy the fuck alone for chrissake

and my mom saw the bit on him this morning and it was all 'YOU REMEMBER THE PREGNANT MAN WELL HE WANTS TO HAVE ANOTHER' and mom goes

i quote

'Now that's just wrong.'


Nope, mom, no -- what's wrong is how you can openly discriminate against someone who out of love for his wife decided to take the painful position of birthing a child just because they might be male. Just because they were once female.

It's not like you have a child who has already told you he felt the same way.
 
oh vernes :(

well tell her she's being a cunt, that's a pretty dick thing to say considering you might be in the same situation one day!
 
yeah i know right i wish i could but she thinks she's being funny

and she's like making a big deal that SHE'S DOING ~RESEARCH~ by which i mean watching like tg 'documentaries' by which i mean shows that find the two most obnoxious transgender people ever and ask them questions and by watching barbara walters on thomas beattie

"ANYWAYS I HAVE TO GO FINISH WATCHING MY SHOW ON THAT MAN WHO HAD BABIES" yes mom i very much appreciate the fine work you're doing trying to understand me

I am so tired of her thinking she understands me because all she does is treat me like i'm still her five year old, explaining everything she finds funny effectively killing the joke, trying to help me understand simple concepts, acting as if she's all-knowing -- mom, i'm smarter than you ok? I know it, you know it, so stop treating me like i'm a little kid. Maybe if you have some questions about what I'm thinking you should ask me. Maybe I know what's going on in my head. Stop trying to make decisions for me -- I don't want to go to a school just because it has a good dance program, I don't want to take tutoring for the ACT, I don't want to be your little girl anymore.

She acts like she knows me so well... she can't even remember certain important things like my act score. That's sort of going to affect the rest of my life, mom, you should know the difference between 24 and 26! I'm tired of dealing with her crap, I'm tired of her.

You know once when I was in group with my school counselors we did a sort of activity where we had to list out our 'board of directors' -- the people we trust, that we go to when we have problems. I only had four; we were made to put the guardian(s) we live with one there (don't have much a problem with this, it makes sense). Then we had to list out next to each name symbols that corresponded to certain traits -- there was like an L with a circle or something for when you listen to their problems more than they listen to you, there was a T with a circle for breaking trust, etc ... after we did that for everyone, they said to cross out the people with any circled letters, except your parents.

If it hadn't been for that 'except for parents' rule, my mom would be the only one crossed out. I'm constantly listening to her whine, listening to her tell stories about me that are by all means not things I want shared -- she tells even the hairdresser that I 'want to be a boy.' Does that have any tact at all?

Sometimes she'll start out talking by going, 'don't get mad, but...' and that's the worse, cause I know she's going to say something stupid. And if I roll my eyes cause I know that she'll yell at me! What does she expect? I feel as if I'm never allowed to get upset, to cry, to get mad -- she can yell and scream and break down all she wants but as soon as I shed a tear she gets frustrated with me and storms off like it's all my fault. Don't cry, she'll tell me. I show some sort of negative emotion and she gives up, walks away with this annoyed scoff as if I've done something wrong.

And I know it's partially my fault that she's always like this because I'm such a hassle. She's going through this crap with the divorce, all these upsets with dad, her mom dying of cancer, our family's financial issues -- here I am, costing so much with dance and therapy and school and medication (74 dollars on half my meds alone last time) and being so emotionally demanding, so draining because I'm fucked up and perfectionist and causing trouble everywhere -- the least I could do is get good grades in school, satisfy the parents there, can't even do that -- i'm in all sorts of trouble at dance because of reasons I don't understand, but all I can do is cry about it, not fix anything -- I know I'm just making things worse. And now I'm springing this whole 'I want to be a guy' thing on her? What's wrong with me?

And this is why a. I should be dead, b. people shouldn't read my posts because they're irrelevant, c. I am a whiny brat.




Aaaaaaaaaand none of that was relevant go verne you suck.
 
you know what i find amusing

the passing of prop. 8 was immediately followed by wildfires
 
Oh Verne ):

It's terrible that she's being so tactless and going about it completely the wrong way to understand what it is you're going through, but even if she's screwing it up so much along the way, at least she's making an effort. No, that doesn't justify her thinking she knows everything about you from two crappy documentaries, but she's shown she's willing to put in an effort, and maybe you could show her some decent websites or research that would help her without the media spin of "This MAN had a BABY".
Maybe she'll come around and be more helpful in time, after she's had time to cope with your grandmother's death and the divorce and things; at the moment it might feel like added pressure, but in time, when everything else isn't so much of a pressing issue, you can sit her down and have a talk that doesn't start with "Don't get mad, but...".
But God, don't blame yourself for this. Sure, lessons, meds and such are expensive but they're necessary and she's willing to pay for them; if affording them was a real problem, she'd have said something.

Try to relax about her not knowing about your school levels; my dad doesn't have a clue what any of my marks and grades mean, and he'll say "Well done" or "Better luck next time" depending on how happy I am when I tell him. I'm smarter than him and while it would be nice to be able to talk to him about my grades and such, I know that all he wants is for me to do the best I can, which is all any parent wants, really.
And it's preferable to having a really pressurising parent who insists you get a certain grade so you can go to a certain school and spend the rest of your life doing something they've picked out for you.

And I'm rambling now. I don't know much about your situation past what you said in the post above, but I really, really hope everything works out for you. And regarding "people shouldn't read my posts because they're irrelevant"; this is exactly what this club is here for.
 
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