CNiall
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If Mew was intended to serve as a 'god', why even bother introducing Arceus as what it is?
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Who's the REAL poke-god?
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If Mew was intended to serve as a 'god', why even bother introducing Arceus as what it is?
Kabigon
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Actually Gengar was one of the first Pokemoon back in the 70's but I still think Mew is the creator.
Arceus could've been created in the first game but it wasn't. Meaning that intentionally Mew was intended to be the Ancestor. HOw can something be the ancestor if it isn't the first. Now I'm not saying that Arceus sat on its lazy but and took credit for Mew but it created Dialga and Palkia and Giratina to create the world then Mew just came to color in the lines.
Arceus could've been created in the first game but it wasn't. Meaning that intentionally Mew was intended to be the Ancestor. HOw can something be the ancestor if it isn't the first. Now I'm not saying that Arceus sat on its lazy but and took credit for Mew but it created Dialga and Palkia and Giratina to create the world then Mew just came to color in the lines.
CNiall
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It's also perfectly possible that there's some retcon floating about and Mew was intended to be the 'god' but Arceus was thought of and the mythology surrounding the creation shifted slightly to accomodate it.
The problem with the 'Mew came to colour in the lines' idea is that not only is there the issue surrounding where Mew came from if not Arceus, but also that without Arceus there would be no lines for it to colour it, to continue the metaphor.
The problem with the 'Mew came to colour in the lines' idea is that not only is there the issue surrounding where Mew came from if not Arceus, but also that without Arceus there would be no lines for it to colour it, to continue the metaphor.
Phoenixsong
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asdfgh things like Pokédex numbers and copyrights have absolutely nothing to do with the ingame story! D< Rhydon was the first Pokémon ever coded into a video game! You know what? I've changed my mind. I think Rhydon is the god of all Pokémon because it came first.
The "mythological/scientific" explanation is all that matters, not what order they were discovered in or what order they got around to copyrighting them in. Sheesh.
The "mythological/scientific" explanation is all that matters, not what order they were discovered in or what order they got around to copyrighting them in. Sheesh.
Time Psyduck
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Crazy Linoone
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Or you could say that because Arceus created Mew with its/his/hers/?'s DNA, so Mew can turn into Arceus. Since Mew created Dittos, Dittos can also turn into Arceus (probably not a good idea though).
Yeah. Arceus.
Phoenixsong
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Crazy Weavile
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Phoenixsong
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Mew has not been mentioned in the order of the creation myth at all, and until Nintendo explicitly puts it in its place what's wrong with a little speculating about what else is possible?
Quite honestly I agree, it is more likely Arceus than not, but that doesn't automatically make the devil's advocate argument "you're wrong you don't get it".
Quite honestly I agree, it is more likely Arceus than not, but that doesn't automatically make the devil's advocate argument "you're wrong you don't get it".
Black Yoshi
look at that PUNGENT KILLSTICK.
Roxxor
1st Generation Pokemon Trainer
Okay. Arceus can be any type it wants to be, but mew can be whatever Pokemon it wants to be and can learn all TMs. Plus Mew came first. Eventhough Arceus has the highest base stats of any Pokemon, mew is still the Pokegod because it created all Pokemon.
Actually, I think Mew and Arceus are equals. Arceus made the Pokemon world and rules it, and Mew created all Pokemon and put them in the world Arceus created.
I also like Time Psyducks' view on it.
"Arceus created Mew
Mew created Celebi
Celebi takes Mew back to before Arceus
Mew creates Arceus
Celebi and Mew go back to when they came from."
Actually, I think Mew and Arceus are equals. Arceus made the Pokemon world and rules it, and Mew created all Pokemon and put them in the world Arceus created.
I also like Time Psyducks' view on it.
"Arceus created Mew
Mew created Celebi
Celebi takes Mew back to before Arceus
Mew creates Arceus
Celebi and Mew go back to when they came from."
Coloursfall
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Roxxor
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Coloursfall
THIS IS HOW WE BLEED
EnerPrime
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Arceus. First, it is explicitly mentioned as a creator. Mew has never been mentioned in any creation legeds whatsoever, only therorised as an 'ancestor' by the scientists that created Mewtwo. Finally, and pretty importantly, there is more than one mew within the fiction. When one speaks of Arceus "in-universe", they refer to one being. Mew are a species. This puts tham right out of the running to be 'god' as far as I'm concerned.
Zantetsuken
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*sigh* This conversation again...
Think about it. We all shouldn't go by "Aw, Mew does this mystical thingy. BUT! Arceus does THIS mystical thingy..."
But. Read the pokedex entry. I quote "It is described in mythology as the Pokemon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms."
Here's the Pearl entry. "It is told in mythology that this Pokemon was born before the universe even existed."
It shaped the universe. It was born before the universe. Which leaves the conclusion that Arceus made Mew. It's the Chicken/Egg scenario, if you ask me though...
Think about it. We all shouldn't go by "Aw, Mew does this mystical thingy. BUT! Arceus does THIS mystical thingy..."
But. Read the pokedex entry. I quote "It is described in mythology as the Pokemon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms."
Here's the Pearl entry. "It is told in mythology that this Pokemon was born before the universe even existed."
It shaped the universe. It was born before the universe. Which leaves the conclusion that Arceus made Mew. It's the Chicken/Egg scenario, if you ask me though...
Yarnchu
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FOOLS! Do you not know who the real pokegod-or actually, pokegods-are? The pokegods, of course! Remember Ratichu, Rainer, Millenum? Or the others? I can't believe you forgotten who the real ones were, ever since this "Arceus" came. And then, the TRUE pokegod is Mew, since she was part of the original gang. :evil:
Invader Palkia
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My thoughts...
Arceus created the universe, Palkia and Dialga to take over time and space (So he didn't have quite as much work), the pixies, and mew to populate.
And thats what I think. (Honestly I like Arceus more then Mew just because he's... neat... I've never actually used him and I don't take his stats into consideration, as with most of my favorites)
Arceus created the universe, Palkia and Dialga to take over time and space (So he didn't have quite as much work), the pixies, and mew to populate.
And thats what I think. (Honestly I like Arceus more then Mew just because he's... neat... I've never actually used him and I don't take his stats into consideration, as with most of my favorites)