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Cats (2019) Mafia

Keldeo said:
no one besides her would know that she would claim cop.
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What I mean by this is like, hypothetical AU Emmy is, say, actually bulletproof, claims when asked, and is never gonna be a healer target. The watcher plan, already somewhat contrived, is totally busted.
 
Keldeo said:
Keldeo said:
no one besides her would know that she would claim cop.
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What I mean by this is like, hypothetical AU Emmy is, say, actually bulletproof, claims when asked, and is never gonna be a healer target. The watcher plan, already somewhat contrived, is totally busted.
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my laggy brain has been struggling to fully piece together the argument from the last few posts (not anything against what youre saying, i just have low reading comprehension)

is the scenario youre considering w!ultracool convincing w!emmy to adjust claim to cop in order to utilize a w!watcher?
 
Basically, what I noticed originally was that Ultracool was treating Emmy with suspicion in the first post and then seemed to be considering the world where she was town in the second post - not damning but it stuck out to me. It's not anything to do with the actual content of the posts / the watcher theory, because mafia Ultracool couldn't know that town Emmy would actually claim a valuable, doctor-worthy role.

Trebek said:
ive spend a while debating back and forth on what alignment i think herbe falls into. i keep psyching myself out with wifom arguments of like "w! herbe wouldnt claim this early! maybe w!herbe knew I'd think that! maybe v!herbe knew id think that id think that!" times infinity. As it currently stands, my gut is still telling me to trust him, but i wouldnt give him a get out of jail free card.
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What did you think about my and mewtini's discussion of Herbe earlier?

Same thought on ILS tbh, I appreciated his read wall and think it probably makes him not mafia partners with Blu but idk if I've been able to take a lot else from it.
 
damn i really overthought that. thanks. agree. ugh but the wagon comp ... i just don't think ultracool is like, unpopular enough for no one to come to his rescue somewhat?
 
Keldeo said:
Trebek said:
ive spend a while debating back and forth on what alignment i think herbe falls into. i keep psyching myself out with wifom arguments of like "w! herbe wouldnt claim this early! maybe w!herbe knew I'd think that! maybe v!herbe knew id think that id think that!" times infinity. As it currently stands, my gut is still telling me to trust him, but i wouldnt give him a get out of jail free card.
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What did you think about my and mewtini's discussion of Herbe earlier?
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I definitely found myself nodding along to a lot of the ideas in the discussion - thats actually where most of the basis of me being unsure comes from, since i was townleaning him a lot more earlier. the discussion didnt flip my opinion of him, but it definitely convinced me to keep an extra eye out in future interactions.
 
Oh yeah starting to look at EOD1 reminded me -

@M Plus 7 Hope you can make it in for EOD tbh! Cliffs notes on the last however many pages:
- IndigoEmmy fakeclaimed a weird role and then claimed Skimbleshanks, cop with n0 mewtini and n1 Seshas
- Herbe claimed Victoria, role cop with n0 mewtini and n1 Butterfree as "fishing brother", which she confirmed (one of a pair of vengefuls who gets a revenge kill when the other person dies)
- Mr. Ultracool is the main wagon right now with no real counterwagon
- there's an ISO button now!

(Am I giving MP7 cliffs because I want him to be town and get engaged? Yes. Will I probably keep giving him another day here just because I invited him and want him to be town? Yes. Do I actually think he's town... uh... pending until he does deeper analysis. Liked the agendalessness in his EOD1, his tone, and his questions well enough. I think he's accurate in saying that he seems like he's replacing in for himself every time he enters thread, and that's sort of getting in the way of me seeing something really unfakeable.)
 
i know i said i'd iso keldeo and like. i did go through for a bit. but it's 4am and my head is just like
kyeugh said:
keldeo is a tough one tbh, but honestly i think if he’s scum someone that isn’t me is going to have to figure that out
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at least for toDay :|
 
mewtini said:
i'm comfortable on my vote but that lopsidedness just feels like a bad omen :| idek who else i'd wagon atm. stress moment
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Hmm... same tbh. I am going to be the change I want to see in the world and vote Herbe, which actually just makes it 7-2-1 so I guess it's not really a change.

Herbe >= Ultracool >= anyone else of like... [MP7, RNP, ILS, maybe Blu] I guess >> Tofu/Emmy, maybe.

@Eifie I am starting a wagon. Shower me in praise.
 
i considered herbe when i was replying to your question, but i think i'd be more willing to try it out if i wasn't worried it'd go directly to EoD. then again i kind of just want another wagon right now. mmffff ...

his 1733 also makes me think he didn't set out to go after emmy/discredit her
Herbe said:
I'm barely keeping up. But if emmy is telling the truth, do we need to continue copcovering? or is there a chance that there's more than one cop in the game?
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but i also don't really know much about rolecops, and whether they're like rarely seen as town or just not clearing
on iso:
on d1 -
spends a while talking about tvtropes' effects on his game now (basically that he has to put in more effort to be townread here, since he pocketed everyone as endearing-mafia last game). in 726 says he'd go for a kokorico lynch (after keldeo asked the thread about their gut-lynches), says that the myuma lynch feels "lazy" and then votes for stryke

on d2 -
kind of encourages the VM push, hypocop clears butterfree, shows interest in rari's alien!VM theory in 1489. claims as rolecop upon butterfree/rari soliciting cop counterclaims, asks butterfree if her fishing brother is alive/if she has insight into the double nightkill (i could read this as having a wolfy motive), suggests that healing roles coinflip between him and emmy. in 1765 says that he doesn't know if trusting emmy is "mechanically safe" because rolecop + cop as town feels OP, says that emmy's clears are fakeable
 
mewtini said:
kind of encourages the VM push
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on kyeugh, sorry

on reread i am maybe not vibing on herbe anymore, provided that rolecop really does veer mafia in alignment
huff. i don't really want to go to sleep while still on the majority side of a 7/2 split tbh. herbe
 
Keldeo said:
Keldeo said:
Herbe >= Ultracool >= anyone else of like... [MP7, RNP, ILS, maybe Blu] I guess >> Tofu/Emmy, maybe.
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...This is like super cryptic, sorry. This is a ranking of my willingness to vote out people today.
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Oh, oops, I missed Mist. They should also be in that bracketed group, except maybe not because I don't want to vote them out the day they subbed in.

I kind of see what you were saying about Superjolt's EOD1, mewtini. It seems he asked a lot of people about what he should look at / said he would look into things, but never really gave thoughts, even though it seemed like he had time. I know he wasn't caught up, but I guess I'd expect more engagement or something?
 
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