first things first: like i told mewt i would yesterDay, i skimmed Herbe's D1 ISOs from the previous tcod games during the Night to see whether the "pushing someone at random on D1" thing was actually indicative of their townplay. here's what i put together...
this game: to be determined. random d1 accusation on me
anarchist cyberpunk mafia: mafia.
random d1 accusation on RNP
knives alley: town (hydra with m&f). no random d1 accusation
ghost mafia: town.
random d1 accusation on me
gym leader MFia: mafia-allied 3p.
random d1 accusation on me
tarot mafia: town.
random d1 accusation on jack
cats (2019): town.
random d1 accusation on me
tv tropes: mafia. no random d1 accusation
tl;dr: it looks to me like it's totally NAI for them - not inherently scummy like i thought, but also not a clear townsign like she suggested. (and also they really don't seem to like me for some reason.
but that's probably just coincidence. right herbe? right??)
re: eod, i think the one thing to safely say is that RNP's behaviour remains extremely towny... i concur that sniping herbe makes most sense in context if you don't know that stryke is w. i am not sure what to make of herbe and mewt though. i could buy either aiming to earn towncred by shifting onto a wolf who, as has been suggested, might be less active - perhaps judging that they didn't need to push on me as it would be simple to get me voted out the Day after - and it makes me extremely Thinking Face Emoji that mewt
just up there suggested
i might have been doing exactly that. so i can't say i feel any better about either of them - and in fact i feel considerably worse about mewt now after she put so much stock in scumreading me off my off-the-cuff EoD post.
night action: lacking any better targets and not particularly scumreading anyone else, i frenzy planted herbe. frenzy plant is the one that blocks appeal as well as the actual effect of the move, but only if the appeal is below a certain threshold... but it looks like they went over the threshold, so no useful info there i'm afraid.
in reply to sande who seems to have been doing the most thinking toDay (and also explicitly asked me some stuff):
speaking of qenya: i'm starting to wonder if the Watch Out If I Flip Red post was aimed at me specifically, because in
#197 where she's been keeping track of everyone's claimed move numbers, it's literally just me and her who have 4 moves. maybe she was thinking others lied about move count or was just throwing out any self-pres confusing possibilities she could think of, but. idfk. also i don't want to tunnel based on flavor but
frenzy plant still really doesn't sit right with me. (on the other hand - would w!qenya really not think to make up something else??? help.)
it certainly wasn't targeted at you! and i don't particularly think it's likely to actually be the case, either. i just tend to be extremely no thoughts head empty around EoD, having usually already offered all my thoughts in a timely fashion... anyone who's played with me much before can certainly attest to that... so i gravitate to spitballing while waiting to see if anything interesting will happen around the wagons. in general i think coming out and offering a hairbrained theory that just occurred to you, even if it's totally implausible, is more useful to town than keeping quiet until you're certain about something, because it helps people see and have a record of your train of thought.
it
does unnerve me that we haven't seen any evidence of this game's patented MF Bastard Gimmick yet, but by definition we can't really play to predict it so i think all we can do for now is assume the game is normal until proven otherwise.
she mentioned earlier that the other Cool move lilligant has is solarbeam, which isn't fitting for a roleblock, but based on the way that some of my moves have been finagled to fit my role i could come up with a fitting way to flavor solarbeam as a roleblock. "the pokemon releases a bundled beam of light at another contestant, so bright and startling it prevents them from performing their own appeal", or something.
that's not quite what i said! i said that solar beam isn't super fitting for a roleblock, but i also said it was
no worse than frenzy plant. which is quite correct, i think; in fact the suggestion you make there is much better than the frenzy plant flavour i actually have. the point i was making was that i was just as baffled as everyone else by the flavour. (in fact that's how i arrived at the "what if the mafia don't actually know they're mafia" idea, although i think i posted about them in the reverse order? i forget)
anyway, qenya (for realsies this time, i have a vote, i swear) - if you're around toDay (pls ;w; ) i'd like to hear from you on your thought process re: the "if i flip red check your PMs" post, and i'd also like to hear what you're thinking about the state of the game in general. how are you feeling about Everybody Hated That on your poast how are you feeling about the votes and the flip.
i think i've pretty much answered everything else already, but i do also want to say that i don't think "Everybody Hated That" is really accurate either. the only people who've actually said they think it's a huge red scumflag are mewt and herbe. which i think we've established
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personally i think
herbe is the correct vote here - helps sort mewt, helps sort jack off their mutual "we know secret knowledge about each other and about the setup
", helps sort me - but i'm not really expecting to overturn my wagon given EoD is in like 5 hours and not 29 like i thought at first (and i won't be around for it anyway). so this is mostly just to let you all know where my head is at, and hopefully engender some interesting conversations so that you can look back at them later after i flip. and also bragging rights later if i turn out to have been completely right, lol.
