Theism, Religion and Lack thereof

[1. Luftballon]

Re: The to-be short lived theism thread

Okay? I would ask for the difference, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter.
A man still can't asex into a woman. He can't asex anyway, but still.

a man can asex into a person who identifies as female.

sex is biological. gender isn't. I think that's the distinction, anyway.

 

[Saith]

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So my point was almost completely correct?
I just failed to mention that Eve could have been a guy, as well?

Also, SN, Kangaroo.

 

[Adriane]

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So my point was almost completely correct?

No. Sex is biological. Gender is not. There is a distinct difference.

 

[Saith]

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Fine, you're right.
Point is, Eve should have been biologically male, if it was asexual. Happy?

 

[opaltiger]

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Why not believe in god? The image of God brings us hope, something to believe in.

Along with suffering and division. Hope that is inspired simply by the idea of god cannot be sincere, can it? You say "I will go to a better place when I die!" but the reason you believe that is because you hope you will go to a better place when you die. Do you see my point? Outside of this circular sort of argument there is no reason to believe in god.

And can you tell me specific examples when you say 'new species that have been discovered'? Noah just didn't feel the necessity to tell all of his decendents about every single animal he brought into the ark.

Okay, what about the kangaroo or the platypus? Both very remarkable, very distinct animals. Neither mentioned.

 

[Michi]

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Woah, I missed a lot of stuff. :P

To Pwnemon: I meant instinctual as in programmed into our genes, not as in some feeling in the back of our heads that it's good to do this, or, as your post would imply by wording, that we are born with an urge to do evil. I believe murder, for example, is a sin and is warned against in the Bible, and all creatures on earth (that are able) kill others of their own kind. es this mean that, in the eyes of Christianity, all animals will go to Hell? Assuming they have souls like humans, that is. I don't see why we are treated so specially by deities when we are animals ourselves, merely with a bit more intelligence and opposable thumbs.

And it's probably a bad idea to bring this up but... how do so many theists manage to ignore the overwhelming evidence for evolution and the big bang and other such "theories?"

 

[opaltiger]

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And it's probably a bad idea to bring this up but... how do so many theists manage to ignore the overwhelming evidence for evolution and the big bang and other such "theories?"

No need to use scare quotes, evolution is definitely a theory. The Big Bang Model is, however, a model.

 

[Autumn]

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And it's probably a bad idea to bring this up but... how do so many theists manage to ignore the overwhelming evidence for evolution and the big bang and other such "theories?"

Because they refuse to let themselves admit that there is a part of their religion that contradicts what science tells us.

 

[Michi]

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I just had to point out that my signature is NOT a reflection of my beliefs, merely an awesome song about suicide. :P

Also, I use quotes because while I realize it's still a theory, I think there is more than enough evidence to prove it over religion. (It being evolution, the big bang has a bit less evidence but still some.)

 

[Autumn]

Re: The to-be short lived theism thread

Most people who don't agree with the theory of evolution use the argument "but it's only a theory!" Theory in the scientific sense means something slightly different than the way it's used in the rest of the English language.

 

[opaltiger]

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I just had to point out that my signature is NOT a reflection of my beliefs, merely an awesome song about suicide. :P

Also, I use quotes because while I realize it's still a theory, I think there is more than enough evidence to prove it over religion. (It being evolution, the big bang has a bit less evidence but still some.)

It's not "still" a theory. It's a theory, and it can never be anything more. I can't be bothered to pull up one of my rants on the matter, so here's a brief summary.

 

[Sage Noctowl]

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Little Monster: The 'tree of life' gave only humans discernment over what is right and wrong; you can't be punished if you don't know either. And we are animals, but God made us special.
opal: read part two of my comment. Noah didn't feel the need for every single animal to be passed down. Discovery wasn't an important thing to him.
The reason that we believe it is because we believe it. Even if God isn't real, I'd rather be taking a chance than be tortured for eternity. I do believe because I don't see anything that jumps out and tells me there isn't a reason to.
Everyone else: Can someone show me where in the bible evolution is said to be wrong?

 

[Autumn]

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Can someone show me where in the bible evolution is said to be wrong?

It's never mentioned in the Bible, because nobody knew of the theory of evolution when the Bible was written. However, do you think the theory of creation can be compatible with the theory of evolution?

 

[Pwnemon]

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Yes it actually can.

 

[Autumn]

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Yes it actually can.

Out of curiosity, are there any other things you agree with that most members of your faith don't agree with? It's rare that we get a theist that actually agrees with (at least some part of) modern science here!

 

[Sage Noctowl]

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How often do you get a theist, anyways?
And there are quite a bit of evolutionary theists out there. You just have to find them.
I agree with most, if not all, of modern science?

 

[Pwnemon]

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I'm open to any science that doesn't directly contradict the Bible. Evolution would be one, seeing as nowhere does the Bible say that animals can't adapt to their environment. I don't see a reason to discount a scientific theory just because it was formed atheistically, so long as it can coexist with all aspects of Christianity.

 

[Autumn]

Re: The to-be short lived theism thread

How often do you get a theist, anyways?

We actually have more theists than you might think, but most of them follow their religion very loosely and thus generally agree with the TCoD atheists on most points. It's just uncommon that people come in to argue with the general opinions of the rest of TCoD.

I agree with most, if not all, of modern science?

Yeah, see, that's rare in most of the theists (that argue against the rest of TCoD opinions) we get.

 

[Sage Noctowl]

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Well, I'm not a LOL HOMOS ARE STUPID BOYS RULE kind of theist, if that's what you mean.

 

[Autumn]

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Yeah, that's what I mean. When theists come in to argue they usually argue about one or more of the following:
-Homosexuality and gay rights
-Abortion
-Evolution