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Ultra Beatdown
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There's more than one electronic artist.
Furretsu
World of Glass
angelspit is industrial with electronic influence
and how exactly am i supposed to prove you wrong? if you're so stupid that you believe that all of their tracks are the same thing there isn't a hell of a lot i can do for you
Vyraura
Finntroller
not if you listen to them more than once.
besides the genre they want to write doesn't have a lot of room for difference if they want to stay in the same genre (unlike say Sonata Arctica) but to say that they actually all sound the same just shows that you don't actually know what you're talking about.
now if you said they were all the same type of power metal that would make sense because they are, but I can tell the difference between every single song by them easily. because I've actually heard all of them.
besides the genre they want to write doesn't have a lot of room for difference if they want to stay in the same genre (unlike say Sonata Arctica) but to say that they actually all sound the same just shows that you don't actually know what you're talking about.
now if you said they were all the same type of power metal that would make sense because they are, but I can tell the difference between every single song by them easily. because I've actually heard all of them.
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Altmer
Banned
ok
here's the music theory argument of my case
listen to every dragonforce song that you know, except the ballads, they follow this format
"intro with keyboard shit"
-very fast intro riff with double bass drumming
-verses
-maybe a solo to lead into the chorus, or the guitars playing a lead melody or something
-chorus with falsetto vocals about slaying dragons
-more verses
-more chorus
-long guitar solo with dweedly bits and keyboards and then they DUEL and copy each other's guitar lines
-chorus (sometimes x2 if they are feeling good)
-outro solo or no outro solo
the ballads have that at 0.5x the tempo
go and look at the lyrics booklet and the song layouts and you'll see all of it is formatted in that way, except the songs are a little longer because the solos are longer correspondingly
they use some small variations in melody which is why after close listening you can tell some songs apart, but every song adheres to that writing formula.
here's the music theory argument of my case
listen to every dragonforce song that you know, except the ballads, they follow this format
"intro with keyboard shit"
-very fast intro riff with double bass drumming
-verses
-maybe a solo to lead into the chorus, or the guitars playing a lead melody or something
-chorus with falsetto vocals about slaying dragons
-more verses
-more chorus
-long guitar solo with dweedly bits and keyboards and then they DUEL and copy each other's guitar lines
-chorus (sometimes x2 if they are feeling good)
-outro solo or no outro solo
the ballads have that at 0.5x the tempo
go and look at the lyrics booklet and the song layouts and you'll see all of it is formatted in that way, except the songs are a little longer because the solos are longer correspondingly
they use some small variations in melody which is why after close listening you can tell some songs apart, but every song adheres to that writing formula.
Alaphlosiam
Banned
The argument about how similar DF songs sound is a matter of how much you actually listen to the band. For those of us that honestly don't give a shit, we'll stick with "one song, several titles". Lamb of God are the same: I, being a fan, can tell (most) songs apart; however, if someone listened to New American Gospel, he/she would probably ask me why the opening song to the album is so damn long.
Furretsu
World of Glass
Altmer
Banned
It works for valley of the damned too and I actually like that album
and you know power metal is fucking formulaic right?
Cryssie
Ebonclad Enigma
Meh. Okay, so I've been reading this thread for a while and almost can't be bothered to post, but I might as well...
I've given the new album a listen and I really don't find it to be anything special. They've barely changed in four albums and while formulaic songs can work - as Altmer said, power metal is kinda formulaic, but that doesn't mean you can't appreciate a mindlessly energetic song for what it is when you're in the right mindset, generic or not, because sometimes people just don't feel like anything more complex - I do think that they are getting too stagnant and desperately need a fresh approach (which I doubt will ever happen, but hey).
But while there may be a similar quite valid point buried in your witty posts somewhere, you are going to start arguments if you're spitting caustic criticism along with it. I mean, would you take such dismissive criticism of an artist you liked lying down?
I've given the new album a listen and I really don't find it to be anything special. They've barely changed in four albums and while formulaic songs can work - as Altmer said, power metal is kinda formulaic, but that doesn't mean you can't appreciate a mindlessly energetic song for what it is when you're in the right mindset, generic or not, because sometimes people just don't feel like anything more complex - I do think that they are getting too stagnant and desperately need a fresh approach (which I doubt will ever happen, but hey).
But while there may be a similar quite valid point buried in your witty posts somewhere, you are going to start arguments if you're spitting caustic criticism along with it. I mean, would you take such dismissive criticism of an artist you liked lying down?
Altmer
Banned
well it's DF
DF wouldn't stop writing the music they do I mean come on they are DragonForce, they're kinda like Iron Maiden in that sense
the problem is DragonForce just kinda suck at what they do
I appreciate energetic songs but this is like a 60 minute bout of hyperspeed music i mean whoa nelly think of your testosterone
SOMETIMES WE PUT THE CHORUS IN FIRST
OR WE HAVE MORE BRIDGES
OR MORE SOLOS AND MORE HIGH VOCALS AND MORE DOUBLE BASS
ARENT WE EPIC +20 DRAGONSLAYING SKILLS
also I listened to this album too and fuck the melodies are limp like they've run out of energy or something
i mean
the melody to some of the shit on valley of the damned was at least cool, but this is exceedingly gay and the melodies aren't even that worthy of being sung along
my penis shrinks listening to dragonforce :(
DF wouldn't stop writing the music they do I mean come on they are DragonForce, they're kinda like Iron Maiden in that sense
the problem is DragonForce just kinda suck at what they do
I appreciate energetic songs but this is like a 60 minute bout of hyperspeed music i mean whoa nelly think of your testosterone
SOMETIMES WE PUT THE CHORUS IN FIRST
OR WE HAVE MORE BRIDGES
OR MORE SOLOS AND MORE HIGH VOCALS AND MORE DOUBLE BASS
ARENT WE EPIC +20 DRAGONSLAYING SKILLS
also I listened to this album too and fuck the melodies are limp like they've run out of energy or something
i mean
the melody to some of the shit on valley of the damned was at least cool, but this is exceedingly gay and the melodies aren't even that worthy of being sung along
my penis shrinks listening to dragonforce :(
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That's an apt comparison because New American Gospel is shit as is Inhuman Rampage. Actually Inhuman Rampage is more enjoyable. Sacrament is the best LoG album yo :)