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ultraviolet

yeehaw
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personally I don't really understand the desperate need to save the forums!!! when they're not exactly going anywhere? purposefully making new threads just to make discussion at all feels very strained and seems to make the lack of activity more obvious. discussion should be a fairly easy and effortless thing, after all.

i mean yeah it's sad but i guess i came to terms with it ages and ages ago. sometimes communities fall apart! swap contact details with the people you want to talk to and check the forum every couple of days like basically everyone else seems to be doing, i guess? it's not as though the forum URL is going to spontaneously disappear. unless that was Butterfree's plan the whole time to save on server costs!
 

Murkrow

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swap contact details with the people you want to talk to
Some of us are too socially awkward to know how to ask to do this without making ourselves look stupid.

And part of the reason I bumped this thread wasn't just because the forums were inactive, but because a lot of people I would have liked to talk to had been leaving.
 

kyeugh

onion witch
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personally I don't really understand the desperate need to save the forums!!! when they're not exactly going anywhere? purposefully making new threads just to make discussion at all feels very strained and seems to make the lack of activity more obvious. discussion should be a fairly easy and effortless thing, after all.

i mean yeah it's sad but i guess i came to terms with it ages and ages ago. sometimes communities fall apart! swap contact details with the people you want to talk to and check the forum every couple of days like basically everyone else seems to be doing, i guess? it's not as though the forum URL is going to spontaneously disappear. unless that was Butterfree's plan the whole time to save on server costs!
/nods head in agreement

If this place is going to die, it's going to die. It's not the lack of communication or there being no threads or anything, it's just that... this place is generally inactive. Like I said, hopefully ASB will fix that, and bring a bunch of new people in. But for the time being, this place is basically slated to remain stagnant. There's not really a need to throw some kind of giant Reconstruction Party; if the forums are going to die, they will; and if not, they won't.
 

Mai

Banned
maybe ya'll fuckin nerdlords need to come play mafia with us, yo
in agreement with this

and the forums are pretty quiet but being desperate doesn't help, I think - agreeing that things seem to be basically continuing on as it is, save for the mafia forum, which seems to be getting some life back and that's good. Play mafia.
 

Murkrow

Says "also" and "or something" a lot
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purposefully making new threads just to make discussion at all feels very strained and seems to make the lack of activity more obvious.
Also I disagree with this. I don't post much because there aren't many threads I want to reply to. I assume others think the same. I would post if more threads interested me, so I figure making new threads would make it less inactive.
 

Phantom

Uh, I didn't do it.
personally I don't really understand the desperate need to save the forums!!! when they're not exactly going anywhere? purposefully making new threads just to make discussion at all feels very strained and seems to make the lack of activity more obvious. discussion should be a fairly easy and effortless thing, after all.
I disagree with this as well.

Some of us actually still care about the place, and aren't just going to roll over and let it die without at least putting in some effort to save it. I get that everything has its time, but that doesn't mean that there is nothing we can do to give it a fighting chance.

ASB is one of the only things that could really save it. In the meantime we need to keep the few members we have, and to make it more appealing to new members, and a steady activity rate and places to make conversation are the first steps to doing so.

I had a handful of people thank me for what I was doing, and activity did go up when I was posting a lot of threads. Even just basic chitchat threads are something.

This sort of giving up attitude isn't going to help at all, in fact, that negative attitude is counterproductive to what the few people that DO still care and that DO want to save it, are trying to do.

I'm going to start making threads again, and I hope that others join me.

Also:

maybe ya'll fuckin nerdlords need to come play mafia with us, yo
You guys keep starting games without me! I like went away for two days and OMG LOOK AT ALL THE MAFIA!
 

Tailsy

if the nineth lion ate the sun.
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Then I will start games!!! Maybe. Once my university stuff is all done. (I'm graduating this year!)
 

Vipera Magnifica

Aquatic Artiste
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Some of us actually still care about the place, and aren't just going to roll over and let it die without at least putting in some effort to save it. I get that everything has its time, but that doesn't mean that there is nothing we can do to give it a fighting chance.
Yeah, I'm way too invested in this place to just let it die. This is the only semi-active forum that I still frequent. I still compulsively check new posts like every 30 minutes even on fairly inactive days.

Reviving ASB will be important to bringing back activity, but we should also try doing more RPs and mafia games. Maybe after ASB is back, Butterfree can send one of those mass e-mails to encourage old members to return? I see old members pop in every now and then on the visitors list, but few of them post at all.
 

hopeandjoy

yan ya yan ya yaa iii yaaa
The hardest part about RPs is getting people to partcipate. RPs are a commitment and most people here are very busy college and older high school students.
 

Hiikaru

Run.
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How many new members used to go to roleplays and mafia and ASB? Also in addition to those, I think it seems like new members tend to like forum games (they don't take much commitment, so they're something to do while you test out the forums), so adding more of those could help. It would be nice to have more where there's some kind of actual goal like I Spy. It'd also be nice to have some games besides ASB and Mafia that would interest different groups of people, but I have no idea what.

I don't really mind strained conversation. It's still fun to watch and see what people say! And it adds some point to refreshing the forums, so then I actually exist to see threads and reply if I think of something to say. Also the main reason I don't post or make threads is because I'm not sure if anyone's actually there to reply back, so the threads made just for the sake of making threads help with that. Apparently there are still a lot of people secretly hanging around. Also it's kind of nerve-racking making a thread or post if there aren't many, because it's like you're suddenly in the spotlight.

Also I don't know anyone well enough to trade contact information with! I just kind of watch people talk and sometimes say something about writing or battling. I don't have any good contact information, either. E-mail? Skype? I don't even like Skype.

But, mostly, what else is there to do? It's not very fun just sitting around waiting for a super-engaging discussion to just pop up from nowhere.

I think part of it is also that the main site isn't updated too often, but there's not much we can do about that.
 
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Music Dragon

Doosic Maggon
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Some of us actually still care about the place, and aren't just going to roll over and let it die without at least putting in some effort to save it. I get that everything has its time, but that doesn't mean that there is nothing we can do to give it a fighting chance.

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This sort of giving up attitude isn't going to help at all, in fact, that negative attitude is counterproductive to what the few people that DO still care and that DO want to save it, are trying to do.
Hey now! I think it's unfair to imply that people don't care about the forums, or want them to stay alive, just because they're not actively making new threads. I've been around since before I was born again (in 2004 - it's a long story), so I've naturally grown quite attached to the forums and I'd love for there to be a bit more activity around here, but I don't feel like the problem is a lack of threads to post in. I think it's more that there's nothing truly interesting to talk about. It's hard to maintain a conversation if the topic at hand isn't very engaging. The way I remember it, some of our hottest threads over the years have concerned things like sexuality, religion and politics... but after years of arguing with random people on the internet, I imagine one might become sort of jaded, what with these things being pretty personal and all. I think a lot of people just can't be bothered with that kind of stuff anymore.

Most people don't even really "leave" as such; but I guess when you've been hanging out with the same group of people for years, you eventually run out of meaningful things to publicly discuss, and maybe you kind of end up growing close to a handful of members and you talk to them in private about everyday stuff. I think it's a pretty natural progression. Tossing a few icebreakers out there certainly can't hurt, but those longtime members who've stopped posting probably won't come back to talk about, like, shoes or whatever.

Sometimes you just can't force life back into things. It's like when your pet frog dies, you know? And you try to revive it with an advanced combination of chemistry and neurobiology, and you get it to move around and croak and things? Just like it used to? And you can hold your little Gulliver and pet him and he just stares at you with those cold, dead eyes, and you realize it's not the same? But you keep him around anyway, and you introduce him to all your friends and say "Hello, this is Gulliver, he's my pet frog, he used to be dead but I made him come back!" and they stop being friends with you, but at least you have your pet frog? It's kinda like that, I guess. I think an important lesson to take away from this experience is that if you fall in love with a girl, but she starts going out with a guy who has an actual live pet frog, and you become depressed, and you sit in your room all day clutching your dead pet frog... I forgot where I was going with this.

Something that might possibly attract interest would be a compelling philosophical discussion, I think. We've had some of those throughout the years, it seems like the sort of thing people enjoy. It promotes interaction, since you actually have to respond to each other as opposed to just butting in to tell everyone your favorite mollusk color. That's the sort of thing people could perhaps get invested in. But hell if I can think of anything to talk about. Maybe the ethics of restoring dead animals to life?
 

I liek Squirtles

sobble squad
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If you guys need some long running game, we can try rebooting my failed Poké Drama Island. Of course, we'd need people to run it, preferably a group of about five. PDI is really big on the Serebii forums, but it's on hiatus since last year. This is why it would be ideal if various people ran it; that way, someone can write one episode, and a nice rotation could be set up.

The problem is that some of us never got here and established bonds super quickly that carry over onto email and stuff like that. I joined in 2011, so the forum was already nearing its current hiatus; most of the people I talk to and established bonds with joined around that time. Besides, it's kinda hard to let the fourm go when I'm at (or nearing) the age where many of you guys started contributing a lot to tCoD.
 

RespectTheBlade

rage against the dying of the light
It may seem a bit far-fetched (not gonna capitalize on that pun opportunity) but I think something that might work for another sort of forum thing would be some sort of writing contest, perhaps? Or maybe some type of mass collaborative story? (like an RP, but more open for expansive writing and sort of independent of deadlines, which would allow for participation from those who might not be able to keep up with an RP.)

I don't know, just shooting ideas.
 

Murkrow

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When I used to frequent Serebii I liked the caption competition that was there. It was forum related since it was usually a "screenshot" of a Pokémon game. We could do something like that here. The only problem is it would go in forum games. I haven't been there for a while so I don't know how active it is, but I can't imagine that section being active would cause the rest of the forum to do so.
 

ultraviolet

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When I used to frequent Serebii I liked the caption competition that was there. It was forum related since it was usually a "screenshot" of a Pokémon game. We could do something like that here. The only problem is it would go in forum games. I haven't been there for a while so I don't know how active it is, but I can't imagine that section being active would cause the rest of the forum to do so.
Someone started an I Spy game that went pretty well for a little while, so I don't see why something like this wouldn't work. I like games! they tend to work better at fostering communities than most other things.

MD said:
Something that might possibly attract interest would be a compelling philosophical discussion, I think.
You should start a mathematics-based thread, there are a few math people around still I think!
 

Superbird

Fire emblem is great
Or maybe some type of mass collaborative story? (like an RP, but more open for expansive writing and sort of independent of deadlines, which would allow for participation from those who might not be able to keep up with an RP.)
Small groups on the forum have, as you are probably aware, organized these before. My experience with that is that the group just died because everyone but me either left and gave up, so I used the general premise of what we were planning to write for my own story, and to date I think it's the best novel I've written. While I agree this would be a fun idea, I have to admit that I'm skeptical whether it would work. Deadlines would be shaky because occasionally things just wouldn't happen at all, and while it would be more open to expansive writing, it would also be constrained to following a pre-planned plotline which, unlike an RP, can only really deviate in a few directions, and must then be tied up neatly. Unless, of course, we were to do something wherein people take turns writing chapters, but that would take forever and thus defeat the purpose of using it as an activity boost.

I would totally post in a math-based thread. And I rather like the poké drama island idea -- I don't remember that at all despite being part of it, but it does look fun.
 

Music Dragon

Doosic Maggon
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You should start a mathematics-based thread, there are a few math people around still I think!
Well, you know that's a topic I love talking about, but the problem is that it's... kinda not something you discuss, I guess? Most things in mathematics aren't really up for debate. I suppose you could talk about solutions to various problems, or personal feelings about math, but yeah. I dunno.
 

Karousever

formerly known as Jaketiger1116
I think if we want to provoke discussion we should focus our energies on digging up topics that lots of people can discuss and give input on, math is just sort of...Well a lot of people don't like math, I guess is what I mean. So that's great for those who do but it's only going to attract people who like to (and can) discuss math, as opposed to a subject nearly everybody has an opinion on.

Also I'd have nothing to contribute to a math thread since I'm currently failing Pre-Calculus.
 
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