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Least favorite Pokémon generation?
- Thread starter Loffyglu
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Lord of the Fireflies
Back in black.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
How was Gen III different from Gen II then, besides the huge step forward in graphics?
And how was Gen V different from Gen IV?
How was Gen III different from Gen II then, besides the huge step forward in graphics?
And how was Gen V different from Gen IV?
Mendatt
Chaos, art and science
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
Abilities, natures, and the sp.def/sp.atk split, unless I'm mistaken.
Abilities, natures, and the sp.def/sp.atk split, unless I'm mistaken.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
The point was 4th gen ruined the almost perfect balance that was ADV. The disparity between the tiers was much more minimal and you could regularly win in OU with a UU team. The gap between OU and UU was heightened in 4th gen and BL vanished almost entirely. Stall teams became less useful because there are just too many fast and powerful Pokémon that can break through them.
It should tell you there is something amiss when the 600-dragon is actually banned. Infernape and Heatran are both capable of wrecking teams and have endless variety, making them exceptionally difficult to counter. Azelf basically guaranteed rocks as it could destroy anything with a faster taunt.
The point was 4th gen ruined the almost perfect balance that was ADV. The disparity between the tiers was much more minimal and you could regularly win in OU with a UU team. The gap between OU and UU was heightened in 4th gen and BL vanished almost entirely. Stall teams became less useful because there are just too many fast and powerful Pokémon that can break through them.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
third/fifth > second > first > fourth.
Despite my favorite Pokemon coming from the fourth gen I'm going to have to say it was my least favorite too. D/P/Pt have no replay value whatsoever for me. It's the only gen where I don't like any of the starters, and aside from Croagunk and some of the added evolutions most of the Pokemon are either boring or fugly.
Though the Poketch was a waste of the touch screen, the one thing I do miss from D/P/Pt is the counter app for EV training. I'd love to have something like that in the newer games, or at least some kind of little notepad (preferably one that doesn't wipe itself when you turn the game off).
HG/SS were decent games, despite the fact that I can't seem to complete SS without getting bored with my team and starting over. I like my current file pretty well but my progress on that is getting overshadowed by White version right now. Part of me doesn't like the copy+paste battle frontier, but then again the battle frontier was my only reason to keep playing Platinum and now that it's in a better game all is well. But I do like Emerald's frontier better.
third/fifth > second > first > fourth.
Despite my favorite Pokemon coming from the fourth gen I'm going to have to say it was my least favorite too. D/P/Pt have no replay value whatsoever for me. It's the only gen where I don't like any of the starters, and aside from Croagunk and some of the added evolutions most of the Pokemon are either boring or fugly.
Though the Poketch was a waste of the touch screen, the one thing I do miss from D/P/Pt is the counter app for EV training. I'd love to have something like that in the newer games, or at least some kind of little notepad (preferably one that doesn't wipe itself when you turn the game off).
HG/SS were decent games, despite the fact that I can't seem to complete SS without getting bored with my team and starting over. I like my current file pretty well but my progress on that is getting overshadowed by White version right now. Part of me doesn't like the copy+paste battle frontier, but then again the battle frontier was my only reason to keep playing Platinum and now that it's in a better game all is well. But I do like Emerald's frontier better.
Professor Wesker
Fesh Pince of Blair
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
I'm gonna say it: Genration 1. Now I don't hate it, and I'm certainly not dissing the classics. But seriously, the designs for Pokemon were pretty basic, and the Psychic type was broken as hell. And after beating the Elite 4 and Champ, there wasn't really anything else to do except catch Mewtwo and send your best Pokemon over to the Stadium games. And plus, Gary Oak, while most love him, was an obnoxious jerk in my opinion and my least favorite rival.
I'm gonna say it: Genration 1. Now I don't hate it, and I'm certainly not dissing the classics. But seriously, the designs for Pokemon were pretty basic, and the Psychic type was broken as hell. And after beating the Elite 4 and Champ, there wasn't really anything else to do except catch Mewtwo and send your best Pokemon over to the Stadium games. And plus, Gary Oak, while most love him, was an obnoxious jerk in my opinion and my least favorite rival.
Lord of the Fireflies
Back in black.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
I can't whether you're right or wrong here, because I have not played ADV myself (competitively I mean). As for the last point, I hate stall teams personally so I wouldn't see much problem, but in the end it just really is up to personal preferences, I guess.
I can't whether you're right or wrong here, because I have not played ADV myself (competitively I mean). As for the last point, I hate stall teams personally so I wouldn't see much problem, but in the end it just really is up to personal preferences, I guess.
Lord of the Fireflies
Back in black.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
Double-post because I don't know how to multiquote.
/shame.
You're entirely right (god I'm so wrong these days) except for the last point - the sp def / sp atk split was from gen I to Gen II iirc.
I might be wrong, seeing how misinformed I am usually.
Double-post because I don't know how to multiquote.
/shame.
You're entirely right (god I'm so wrong these days) except for the last point - the sp def / sp atk split was from gen I to Gen II iirc.
I might be wrong, seeing how misinformed I am usually.
Zero Moment
Vinyl Scratch
- Pronoun
- He
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
Multiquote is right next to quote :\
The reason the Gen II and Gen III games were incompatible was because of the Special split.
Multiquote is right next to quote :\
The reason the Gen II and Gen III games were incompatible was because of the Special split.
1. Luftballon
Banned
- Pronoun
- it
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
internally, the base stats were split but they used the same gene.
internally, the base stats were split but they used the same gene.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
It's a pretty common opinion amongst the competitive community. 4th gen made a lot of people leave the scene, including myself, really. Having played all five metagames (to some degree or another), the first three gens are the most fun. 1st was by no means balanced, but the pacing is fast and it's just hilariously fun (especially when Explosion misses). A lot of people dislike the GSC metagame as it's far slower paced and Leftovers is the only item worth using, but I'd also say it's probably the most balanced. ADV managed to mix the two; a metagame where offensive teams and stall are both viable options, and you even had a choice besides Leftovers (Choice Band!) all without sacrificing too much balance.
I appreciate the efforts that 5th gen has made to expand the mess of 4th into a more interesting mess, but because there are so many possible strategies (and the forced 3-on-3 stadium style doesn't help), it's really hard to keep a consistent winning streak. GSC and ADV played more like chess.
It's a pretty common opinion amongst the competitive community. 4th gen made a lot of people leave the scene, including myself, really. Having played all five metagames (to some degree or another), the first three gens are the most fun. 1st was by no means balanced, but the pacing is fast and it's just hilariously fun (especially when Explosion misses). A lot of people dislike the GSC metagame as it's far slower paced and Leftovers is the only item worth using, but I'd also say it's probably the most balanced. ADV managed to mix the two; a metagame where offensive teams and stall are both viable options, and you even had a choice besides Leftovers (Choice Band!) all without sacrificing too much balance.
I appreciate the efforts that 5th gen has made to expand the mess of 4th into a more interesting mess, but because there are so many possible strategies (and the forced 3-on-3 stadium style doesn't help), it's really hard to keep a consistent winning streak. GSC and ADV played more like chess.
Superbird
Fire emblem is great
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
Yeah, I'm gonna put in my vote for generation IV.
Don't get me wrong, now. I love it, still. I just like the pokémon of other regions a lot more, I think that they didn't really get that flashy with them. Also Sinnoh was annoying as crap and somewhat bland.
EDIT:
Yeah, I'm gonna put in my vote for generation IV.
Don't get me wrong, now. I love it, still. I just like the pokémon of other regions a lot more, I think that they didn't really get that flashy with them. Also Sinnoh was annoying as crap and somewhat bland.
EDIT:
I thought having it so that one person DIDN'T win all the time was balance.
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
Where on earth did you get that idea? In competition, the better player should win most of the time.
sv_01
Witch of Light
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
I don't like Gen II. There is a lot of Pokémon that are probably supposed to look cute but I usually don't like their appearance or the combination of the fact that they are supposed to be cute and what they really are. Why is Corsola pink and not dark red or something? And shouldn't its spikes prevent people from hugging it? Or Bellossom. The fact that a Pokémon whose flowers are probably small Rafflesias dances in beautiful meadows to bring sunny weather looks strange.
And I don't know where Claire got all that lava in such a geologically stable region. It really doesn't seem like the right generation for Slugma and Magcargo to start. That's why you first meet them in Kanto, I think. I like Magcargo, but I don't like the generation it comes from.
I don't like Gen II. There is a lot of Pokémon that are probably supposed to look cute but I usually don't like their appearance or the combination of the fact that they are supposed to be cute and what they really are. Why is Corsola pink and not dark red or something? And shouldn't its spikes prevent people from hugging it? Or Bellossom. The fact that a Pokémon whose flowers are probably small Rafflesias dances in beautiful meadows to bring sunny weather looks strange.
And I don't know where Claire got all that lava in such a geologically stable region. It really doesn't seem like the right generation for Slugma and Magcargo to start. That's why you first meet them in Kanto, I think. I like Magcargo, but I don't like the generation it comes from.
Alxprit
The one and only.
- Pronoun
- he
Re: Least favorite Pokémon generation?
I also think generation 1 is the worst design-wise. There's just not enough... interesting Pokemon to me. I think all the other generations were pretty much all on par with each other and all had their share of awesome pokemon, with the occasional blargh (the most recent is Gothitelle).
I also think generation 1 is the worst design-wise. There's just not enough... interesting Pokemon to me. I think all the other generations were pretty much all on par with each other and all had their share of awesome pokemon, with the occasional blargh (the most recent is Gothitelle).