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haha on this formal standardized test of last year it asked us to write about what we could do if we had a day to spend with a celebrity

i chose george bush and we went to a gay rights parade.

hehe once i used "we" to refer to lgbts so i may have outed myself to the people who grade it (but it's not like they know me personally :/).
 
Yeah it's the we I'm sorta afraid of. I'm pretty excited about the project though -- we can do surveys and interviews (in fact, interviews are required) about our projects, so it's gonna be real interesting.

I'm planning on doing a survey on the Day of Silence, in which I'm going to participate. Just to feel out peoples' reactions.
 
We had to do a 'debate' in class, like set up a 'for' and an 'against' side for a cause, and then people would vote and all that. And we did gay marriage. :3 I've probably said it before, but since you're talking about LGBT-related projects.

It was really awesome, we got to yell a lot at people. Obviously hardly anyone voted for us, since they don't want to get verbally abused for the next few months, but it was really hilarious when the teacher whispered to us at the end, "I'd vote for you!"
 
http://vimeo.com/3089746

^ I dare you to watch this without tearing up ;;

It's terrible that people didn't vote for you on that project-thing, Cirrus; it's sad that people don't stand up for other people's rights because they're scared of what other people think. ):
But very well done for doing it; I bet it was awesome. And you have a very cool teacher :3

And you should post your English project here when you're done with it, Verne (assuming you're writing it on a computer). I wish I got to do more LGBT-related stuff on my course, but at the moment Sociology's the only one of my modules that's touched on it more than briefly, though I know there's a sex and gender topic coming up at some point that should be awesome fun to write an essay about. I've already read the chapter about it in my textbook and it's really cool (and has a picture of The Village People in XD).
And I had the best coming-out ever in front of my entire Social Policy seminar group, where we were discussing women having children, careers or both, and when my seminar leader asked me if I'd choose kids over a job, I said if my hypothetical partner wanted kids, she could have them herself.
 
Well, since we're talking about school projects...

I might have mentioned this before, but right now I'm doing a marriage and family project for my sociology class. We have to pick a spouse (or roommate or go single) and then we get a baby and have to take care of it and live life "in the real world" for about three weeks. I asked my teacher if I could marry another guy, and she said no. D: She said it's because the state no longer recognizes same-sex marriage or some other such bullshit. Aigh. She's damn lucky I have to stay in the closet for my parents, otherwise I'd make a big stink about it. >>
 
Ahaha gaycist

also the woman at 1:30 has a gorgeous dress. The little girl at 2:23 is adorable. And the one with the pregnant woman <3 I am SO using this video for my presentation.

And yeah I'll post it -- it's gonna be over 10 pages but hey. XP We get to make the finished product more of an article than an essay, meaning graphs and images, so it shouldn't be HUEG.

My school is fairly closed minded so we never discuss anything LGBT at all ... ever ... for anything. This is the only time I've ever had the opportunity to bring it up.

Also that is the greatest. And bravest.


also for the day I present I'm seriously considering coming in with a drawn-on moustache, or, in order to representing transsexuality (which is really a hard concept to grasp), bringing in a skirt and blouse and having a guy in the class wear it and calling him a female name for the rest of the presentation. GO team.
 
Well, since we're talking about school projects...

I might have mentioned this before, but right now I'm doing a marriage and family project for my sociology class. We have to pick a spouse (or roommate or go single) and then we get a baby and have to take care of it and live life "in the real world" for about three weeks. I asked my teacher if I could marry another guy, and she said no. D: She said it's because the state no longer recognizes same-sex marriage or some other such bullshit. Aigh. She's damn lucky I have to stay in the closet for my parents, otherwise I'd make a big stink about it. >>

so be roommates with another guy.

Sure, you're not married, but hey, so is life. Besides you could raise your kiddo as a cute little queer.
 
http://vimeo.com/3089746

^ I dare you to watch this without tearing up ;;
aaaaa the two old guys with their '43 years partnered! Korea & Vietnam veterans' sign
Old gay couples are the cutest thing. I mean old couples in general too but you know. And the gaycist sign hahaha

I hope Proposition 8 will be retracted or that they at least don't nullify these marriages. It's disgusting.

Good luck with your projects, Alexi and Verne! Like Verne said, maybe you could be roomates instead? It still sucks that the teacher won't let you marry a guy but hey, next best thing I guess.
Verne, a sincere wish of courage for the whole coming-out thing if you decide to go through with it and if not, you're still very brave for doing said project in an apparently conservative school. While I think the cross-dressing is a good idea for the guy, make sure you don't make the moustache too 'drag-king' looking if you do draw it on. Might give people the wrong idea. I hate having to explain to people that no, drag kings/queens and transsexuals are not the same goshdarn thing dagnabit and I'm sure you do too.

In fun news: I told my best male friend that I thought I might be trans and he's been ignoring me and replying in very short sentences whenever I try to make conversation.
I don't know if it's just a coincidence and he just doesn't feel like talking or something but it's still pretty hard. We've been friends for nearly ten years now so I wasn't expecting it.
Then again he's been hanging out with 'the boys' a lot lately, never comes to the library with me anymore, laughs at the usual offensive gay jokes his new friends tell him and refused to wear a red ribbon I'd made him on AIDS-Awareness Day, giving a stupid reason like 'but it'd look bad on me, my shirt's black.' The best thing in this was that I was dressed completely in black that day. This is the same guy who just last year got as pissed off as I did when we saw that 'homosexualité' had a little 'voyez aussi: transexualité, pedophilie, bestialité' label on it in the library dictionary and who proof-read my comic without batting an eyelid.
Now he's just a douchebag, apparently.
 
I didn't realize really that prop 8 was much more than just UH DON'T GET MARRIED HERE, GAY PEOPLE. I did some research on it (haha the afa site made me want to kill someone, seriously, never look at it ever.) and found out that it was also going to act as if marriages from other states didn't exist and all that. Jesus. Certain people should be kicked in the teeth.

darn it i wanted a snidely whiplash moustache

You should punch him in the face and tell him to snap out of it. Or cry, maybe he'll respond to crying, jerks never know what to do there.

In reality that sucks -- and if he's been fine with all this it sounds like he's just falling prey to a sort of peer pressure and needs to be brought back down to earth. These new friends don't sound so healthy. Actually, you should punch them in the face.
 
Oh Vlad ): That's really awful. I hate it so much when people change completely when they're around their "other friends" (who clearly aren't great friends if they strip them of their own opinion), but the situation with your friend sounds like the absolute worst.
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'homosexualité' had a little 'voyez aussi: transexualité, pedophilie, bestialité' label on it in the library dictionary

That's... really, really sick. I found a couple of books in the uni library saying how homosexuality is some kind of severe mental disorder or whatever, but they were written in 1900 or something, so they're somewhat excused.

On a lighter (and completely irrelevant, but I figured I'd share it) note, I never realized till I sorted out my books earlier how gay my reading material is. I have 21 non-Sociology-related books with me at uni, of which:

*10 have a gay main character (Fingersmith, Dress Your Family in Cordory and Denim, Affinity, The World Unseen, Running With Scissors, The Married Man, Booked for Murder, Hostage to Murder, Santaland Diaries and Under the Southern Cross)
*2 have gay side-characters (Dead Beat and Hey Nostrudamus!)
*2 are written by gay authors (Eating Cake by Stella Duffy and Sexing the Cherry by Jeanette Winterson)
*2 of the non-gay books are picture books aimed at young children (How to Live Forever and The Very Hungry Caterpillar)
*1 is a book I bought purely because of the gay subtext (The Devil Wears Prada)
*2 are non-fiction; one a guide to drawing, the other about 24.
*...And I have Girlfriend in a Coma because I love Douglas Coupland's writing.

Good times.
 
I didn't realize really that prop 8 was much more than just UH DON'T GET MARRIED HERE, GAY PEOPLE. I did some research on it (haha the afa site made me want to kill someone, seriously, never look at it ever.) and found out that it was also going to act as if marriages from other states didn't exist and all that. Jesus. Certain people should be kicked in the teeth.

It's been that way since gay people could get married in America. Full Faith and Credit does not recognize gay marriage, just straight marriage. It's bullshit.

As for my project, I decided to shack up with another dude as "roommates". I got a funny look from my teacher about it, since she knew the innuendo will be flying soon, but she can't stop us. X3
 
Oh my god that video is the cutest thing

Didn't some vicars get married (okay, 'civil-unionized') to each other in real life some time ago, causing some controversy? or am I just imagining stuff again.

fake edit: I watched Beautiful Thing yesterday and ffffff it's awesome ;w; LESS FOCKIN' AND MORE ATTENTION PLEASE. That's what you should've said to your boyfriend eh.
 
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I think so... I remember a vicar/some kind of within-religious-servitude guy got married a while back (not nessisarily to another vicar) and there was some controversy about that.

I just looked up Beautiful Thing on Wiki and imdb and it looks really, really good. If nothing else, the soundtrack looks awesome, and another gay movie with a happy ending is ++++.
Actually, thinking about it, I can't think of a truly happy gay movie that was made outside of the UK. That kinda sucks.
 
I remember reading about it in a newspaper in English about three or four years ago. It wasn't a vicar, but it was indeed a guy in the CofE, just higher-placed than a vicar. He got married to his partner of like twenty years and some churches wouldn't let him go inside. It was really depressing to read about and I can't for the life of me remember the man's name :/

Beautiful Thing is awesome and it is fully available on youtube (it was a bit hard to find though but I can link it if you'd like). It's good to see a gay-themed film that ends well for once because I'm a bit fed up with having one of the people either die or leave the other or whatever. AIDS films depress the hell out of me especially.
 
The idea of churches not letting people in disgusts me. Who can turn someone who wants to worship away from entering a church? That is the exact opposite of every singe thing Jesus wanted, I reckon.

I think I do need to watch it. It's number 2 on AfterElton's top 50 Gay Movies, of which I've only seen three - Brokeback, Rocky Horror and Rent. Which, as someone who isn't a gay man, I shouldn't find as shameful as I do, but yeah.

AfterEllen should do a movie list like that. I bet I've seen well over half X3
 
In the Jehova's Witness pamphlets I get one of the very convincing arguments they use is 'CHRISTIAN CHURCHES LET IN CRIMINALS! WE ON THE OTHER HAND REFUSE THE ENTRY OF MURDERERS, PAEDOPHILES AND HOMOSEXUALS INTO OUR SACRED SPACES' and I'm like fffff

Attitude recently did an Essential 75 Gay (gay and lesbian and trans really) Films thing two months ago, and I was very sad at having seen very little of them. On the other hand, I now know what to look out for! :v
If anyone's interested, said list (bolded are the ones I've seen):
The Adventures Of Priscilla Queen Of The Desert (1994)
All About My Mother (1999)
And The Band Played On (1993)
Bad Education (2004)
Beautiful Thing (1996)
Bent (1997)
Billy Elliot (2000)
Bound (1996)
Boyfriends (1996)
Boys Don’t Cry (1999) (FtM movie, depressing as hell)
The Boys In The Band (1970)
Brokeback Mountain (2005)
The Broken Hearts Club (2000)
Cabaret (1972)
Capote (2005) (Seymour is amazing in this aaaa. But his voice ): )
Chuck & Buck (2000)
Cruising (1980)
The Crying Game (1992)
Death In Venice (1971) (Wanna see this despite paedo undertones)
Dottie Gets Spanked (1993)
Far From Heaven (2002)
Fucking Åmål (1998)
Get Real (1998)
Gods And Monsters (1998)
Head On (1998)
Hedwig And The Angry Inch (2001)
The History Boys (2006) (quite good)
In & Out (1997)
In Bed With Madonna (1991)
Jeffrey (1995)
Kiss of The Spider Woman (1985)
Kissing Jessica Stein (2001)
L.I.E. (2001)
La Cage Aux Folles (1978) (original French version of course. i am an elitist)
Latter Days (2003)
The Life Of Harvey Milk (1983)
Longtime Companion (1990)
Love Is The Devil (1998)
Ma Vie En Rose (2007) (MtF, adorable)
Making Love (1982)
Maurice (1987) (lovely but christ, clive, fuck off forever)
Milk (2008) (wanna see this)
My Beautiful Laundrette (1985) (this too)
My Best Friend’s Wedding (1997) (I don't know why this is here since there's only one gay character in it but er)
My Own Private Idaho (1991)
Mysterious Skin (2004)
Object Of My Affection (1998)
The Opposite Of Sex (1998)
Paris Is Burning (1990)
Parting Glances (1986)
Philadelphia (1993) (wanna watch it)
Pink Flamingos (1972)
Presque Rien (2000)
Prick Up Your Ears (1987)
Priest (1995) (imagine my uncontrollable sobbing because it happens every time I see this fucking thing)
Querelle (1982) (wanna read/watch this)
The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) (<3)
Sebastiane (1976) (want)
Shelter (2007)
Shortbus (2006)
Stonewall (1995)
Swoon (1992)
The Talented Mr Ripley (1999) (but I saw it when I was like nine so yeah. the scene where matt damon beats jude law to death with a rowing boat paddle scarred me for years)
Time To Leave (2005)
Torch Song Trilogy (1988)
Totally Fucked Up (1993)
Trick (1999)
To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything! Julie Newmar (1995)
Victim (1962)
Victor Victoria (1982)
The Wedding Banquet (1993)
Wilde (1997)
Without You I’m Nothing (1990)
XXY (2007)
Y Tu Mama Tambien (2001)

On another note: why does FtM surgery suck so much.
 
I need to watch more gay films. I can't find many online, though, and I don't really have the funds nor the inclination to buy them. :(

Seen Cabaret, Rocky Horror, Latter Days, Rent and a few other ones, though!
 
I need to see some LGBT films in general. DX

The only one I've seen is Brokeback Mountain, and I only watched it for the first time like, a month ago. Wanted to go see Milk with my friend as well. :/
 
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