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The LGBT Club

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I think I actually *am* lucky. Now that I think about it, I don't hear 'gay' being used as an insult much these days where I live. Maybe it's just 'cause my peers are now older or something, but I think people actually don't use it because its kind of iffy and offensive... this all coming from a pretty Tory county. What.

It's crap in other ways though. :P

Ahh, it sucks when family members use 'gay' as an insult, I'm sure I've heard my sister say it and then look at me to see if I'm offended or not. Why doesn't she just, y'know, not use it at all? @_@
 
'Gay' as an insult/something you call an irritating inanimate object seems to have fallen out of fashion where I live, too, though it's an expression used more by secondary school kids, and I don't spend any time with them, so I don't know. I remember back in th' day, some of my teachers would tell kids off for calling stuff gay, and I'd be there, silently cheering.
Though there was one time in Psychology A-level when a friend and I were talking about something, possibly to do with homosexuality as it's studied in psychology, and our teacher only heard a bit of it and told us off for 'using homophobic language' or something. I have no idea what it was we said that she heard and was annoyed by, though o.O

One of my friends has a habit of using "being homosexual" as a substitute for "not working" when referring to electronics for some reason. But he keeping going up to London where his rich male friends take him to see things like La Cage Aux Follies and Priscilla Queen of the Desert, so I really have no idea what's up there.

VP's shirt is fantastic. You look brilliant :D
 
You are most certainly in~ c: Welcome!

So... you know the friend I have a crush on? She IMed me yesterday and asked straight-out if I liked her (I guess it was kind of obvious ^^;), and when I said yes, she said it was okay and she didn't feel awkward about it or anything, and she just wants to be friends.

God, I'm so relieved.
 
Salamander said:
You are most certainly in~ c: Welcome!

So... you know the friend I have a crush on? She IMed me yesterday and asked straight-out if I liked her (I guess it was kind of obvious ^^;), and when I said yes, she said it was okay and she didn't feel awkward about it or anything, and she just wants to be friends.

God, I'm so relieved.
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Ahh, that's so good for you. :D I've never had a crush on a straight girl before, but I can imagine how it could make friendships awkward.
 
I know; I'm glad she's okay with it. She's not straight, actually, buuut still. It's a 'just friends' thing.
 
I may as well join the club. Can you believe it; Grim's finally out to himself as to having a girl side! Woo, celebrate.

Sorry to hijack but I gathered that this didn't warrant its own thread. Anyway, I'm still not sure myself but I think I have transgender tendencies. To the point where I have looked into HRT. However, I'm still fine with myself as male, but I wouldn't mind (understatement) to be female for half my life. Not as a fetish too; I only get a peace of mind when in girlmode, but at the same time I don't want to get rid of my male self. Also I hate the term "transvestite", it sounds too much like a porn genre and therefore, is degrading.

And since there is no way I am coming out to anyone who shares my blood, I stand at a crossroads; to either wait until university and start living as basically two people there, or just be fine with my manly self. Any suggestions?
 
Have you looked into the umbrella of genderqueer, Grimdour? It sounds a lot like what you're describing, and I know a lot of people who fall under certain aspects of the label do transition.
 
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Have you looked into the umbrella of genderqueer, Grimdour? It sounds a lot like what you're describing, and I know a lot of people who fall under certain aspects of the label do transition.
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I guess. Though I know for a fact I don't every want to transition because I'm too attached to my male ego with all the heavy metal rage and such.

Though I may be able to do that as a girl.
 
So this friday I might finally be able to lead the discussion in the GSA that I've been trying to bring up for around a month! As such, I'm looking for suggestions.

What are some notable portrayals of gay characters in media?
 
You've got your usual Will & Grace, etc.
Thirteen from House is bisexual but I always thought that was kind of a random fanservice decision since it's presented kind of weirdly? And everyone else on the show keeps implying she's gonna cheat on Foreman with a girl (even Taub who defended her 5 minutes earlier in the same episode wtf) which I'm not sure just reflects everyone's jerkiness or the writers'.
Oz is lesser known (it's from 1998-2000) but it took place in a prison and two inmates (Chris Keller and Toby Beecher) actually had a relationship that didn't involve rape before it all went to hell haha
Eastenders apparently has a new storyline about a muslim man and some guy having a relationship that has the British Islamic community up in arms but I don't watch the show so uh. They were the first programme to show a gay kiss on prime time, iirc.
A good number of British sitcoms used to have pretty obviously gay characters that kind of lived on stereotypes :v like Are You Being Served?'s Mr Humphreys, who I don't really have a problem with (because I love camp humour) but I know many people do. Gruber from 'Allo 'Allo fits here too, though he's pretty tame for an 80s Britcom tbh.

In films there's famous stuff like Brokeback Mountain but there are a lot of cool lesser-known LGBT films like Beautiful Thing, Transamerica, In & Out (I really like this movie for no readily available reason) and Latter Days.

It could be interesting to mention really old gay-themed films, like Anders Als Die Andern, a German educational film from 1913 which was partly written by Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld (a famous physician and sexologist who was himself gay). It even mentions transsexuality, and stars Conrad Veidt. It's about blackmail and obviously ends with the usual suicide but the doctor shows up at the end to tell Veidt's family SEE IF YOU'D BEEN ACCEPTING THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
In 1931 the first lesbian film was made (also in Germany), and though I haven't been able to find it yet I'm told it's quite good. It's called Mädchen in Uniform. There's another one from 1928 called Geschlecht in Fesseln which I've yet to see but is also supposed to be good (spoiler: someone dies). All of these films were burned by the Nazis, of course.

France also has a history of gay cinema, of course. Two well-known oldies off the top of my head are Les Amitiés Particuliéres (The Special Friendships, 1964) which takes place in a French boarding school in the 40s (and also ends in a suicide. The film is a bit creepy though since one boy looks way older than the other, haha ;__; in the book he's only supposed to be two years older. The author was a bit of a paedo though so I'm not sure whether this was intentional), Un Chant D'Amour (made by famous writer Jean Genet during the 50s and slightly pornographic, happens in a jail. It's only about 20 minutes long) and Nous Etions Un Seul Homme, which is also a 60s film iirc about a Nazi and French guy (and they die).
France is probably more famous for films like La Cage Aux Folles but they have a tradition of portraying gay characters as normal people with intense love-lives, but the latter is just because they're French.

99% of this is probably hella boring and useless but I got carried away, pft. Also even though gay films are consistently getting blander (with occasional surprises like CANNIBAL PSYCHOLOGICAL DRAMA WHAUGH) I'm glad everyone stops DYING at the end because Christ.
 
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Captain Jack Harkness.

Then you can stem it into how John Barrowman has positively influenced the gay community here in the UK.
 
Thanks!

... It's a pity I'm not actually familiar with any of these except possibly Willow from Buffy.
 
I'm going to second the mention of Beautiful Thing, actually: it is a very good film (especially given when it was set) and the characters there are very sympathetic and normal.

DO IT.
 
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