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The QUILTBAG Club (formerly the LGBT club)

Lorem Ipsum said:
Hurr, to be honest I'd rather the Tories were out and out homophobic and stand by their principles than veil it. That would make the decision easier for me whether to join the LibDems or the Tories.
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Why aren't you joining Labour? Just curious.

If I were British, I would definitely join the Lib Dems. From what I've read, they're the most civil libertarian.
 
Lorem Ipsum said:
Hurr, to be honest I'd rather the Tories were out and out homophobic and stand by their principles than veil it. That would make the decision easier for me whether to join the LibDems or the Tories.
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Wait, why on earth are you okay with joining an implicitly homophobic party but not an explicitly homophobic one? Surely the former is even worse?
 
Phantom said:
That is fucked up! That's one of the reasons I love British tv! They were so open! Any more news on it yet?
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I think what was said before about it applying as much to heterosexual sexualisation as homosexual is right, so I don't think it's specifically aimed at getting the gays off TV (but that could still happen because obviously nobody objects to het kissing (a gazillion people tuned into the wedding the other week just to see one!), but people still write angry letters every time two same-sex people kiss, regardless of context). Although it's still a shame if they're trying to curtail expressions of sex generally, though - I'm not a fan of graphic sex of any kind on TV, but I think it's great that it's still allowed to be shown.

And I wish censors (British, but especially American) would get over non-sexual nudity. It's not provocative, you see worse when you go to an art museum, and it's certianly not something people need protecting from.

And Mawile, your mother makes me sad ):
 
I also assume you like things like roads and pavements and libraries and poor people getting an education and streetlights and being able to call the fire brigade if your house catches fire.
 
Don't be silly, none of those things are required. Or we can have all of that and still call it a free market because socialism isn't socialism when conservatives are in charge.

In a free market all of these things would be privately owned. You can't be against socialism and still want to have socialist things. (Meaning, the US is not actually a free market, or at least not as much as it pretends to be.)
 
You know, some towns in the US have opt-in fire departments. You have to pay an annual fee for the fire department to come to your house.
 
Tailsy said:
You know, some towns in the US have opt-in fire departments. You have to pay an annual fee for the fire department to come to your house.
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Oh yeah who wouldn't want to be a capitalist, badge of honor right there. :| That sounds like a mafia. Pay us to protect you.
 
The difference is that the mafia would then set the fires. There, they're just waiting for it to happen on its own.
 
Lorem Ipsum said:
Obviously, that is wrong - healthcare should be free.
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Welll, that's pretty socialist.

I think it's impractical to say "I'm completely against socialism"; I mean, socialism, on a small scale, is pretty much everywhere. Anything that your tax dollars are used for to benefit the public (police, fire dept., museums, EMTs, etc.) is socialism. What Lorem and I are saying is that the system should be largely free-market capitalism, with a degree (Lorem and I obviously disagree to what degree) of socialism.
 
Dannichu said:
Just asking out of curiosity - are you in favour of leaving poor people bleeding by the roadside?
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Let them bleed out if they don't contribute to the upper classes, I say. *huff pipe, smiling in full knowledge that I on the other hand am a worthwhile member of society because I have money and that's all that matters*

And I'm very glad the Tories are putting up this gay-friendly front but tbh when their leader was for Section 28 and actively campaigned for it for years and still says stuff like 'well i think we can all agree that it is obvious that children should preferably have a mum and a dad and not anything else' and allies his party with a far-right Polish party whose leader calls gay people 'faggots' in parliament isn't actually as open-minded as he's pretending to be.

Also Brussels Pride next week! I am looking forward to it because of all the party hats and balloons and floats with men dressed up as sailors :3c it was really cool last year and the year before and this year I've actually got people to go with me, yaaaay. It's all a bit of fun but at the same time, I think it's pretty awesome that this event is so popular in Brussels. There's stuff advertising it down the main street downtown. I see stuff like this, or just gay couples walking about holding hands or kissing and I remember how cool it is being Western European. SUCH PROGRESS
It's one day after my school's version of a prom, and I've decided that I'll be wearing a suit (and waistcoat and top hat and monocle) and no one's gonna stop me yeaaaah

Also my mother has sometimes mixed up my pronouns even though she thinks me being trans is a phase. ~*Consistency*~ oh well she grew up in a dictatorship I guess I can forgive her being a bit weird about some stuff when she's otherwise so cool.
 
Harlequin said:
Except then they have to find some way to pay, right, even if they have absolutely no money to cover the cost of the treatment?
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I'm pretty sure that if they can't afford it, they still can't be turned down; I think it's covered by taxpayers in that case. (not entirely sure)
 
If you're a first responder, like CPR and AED trained, it's illegal to leave someone in need of your trained services. It's okay to not do anything if the person needs more advanced care than you are lawfully trained to give, either way you need to call for EMS. So say John Smith collapses from a heart attack while shopping. You're trained to respond by calling 911, and if he's unconscious perform CPR if needed and setup the AED. In this case you need to help and if anything happens, person dies or suffers CPR related injuries, you're protected. Now say some John Smith has been in a car accident and is unconscious and trapped in his car. He may have suffered severe neck injuries and moving him without proper training and equipment could make things worse and might kill him. If you get him out of the car and he now must live his life in a bed tied to machines now you can be charged because you acted outside your training. This is when you call EMS and stay nearby until EMS arrives. It's called the Good Samaritan Act. Here's the law for here in MN.
 
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