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UK General Elections 2010
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goldenquagsire
Rubber dinghy rapids, bro!
Because lol single-issue parties?
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goldenquagsire
Rubber dinghy rapids, bro!
because perhaps he simply agrees with their manifesto?
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Really? More than with any other manifesto? I have never known someone to be politically closer to a mainstream party than to one or other of the smaller parties. Everyone I have ever met votes for the mainstream parties only as a kind of compromise. If Harle is going to vote regardless of a party's chances of winning, he might as well vote for one he wholeheartedly agrees with, whether it is the Greens, the Socialists or the BNP.
But perhaps he really does wholeheartedly agree with the Liberals! Perhaps they are his perfect party. It feels foreign to me, but suppose they are. Even then, what type of person votes for a party "regardless of its chances of winning"?
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Harlequin
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Peeve: They're not the Liberals. The Liberals no longer exist as a party. The modern-day name is the Liberal Democrats.
I agree with their manifesto. Is that a crime? I support many of their policies. I disagree with most of the Conservatives' plans and also a great deal of Labour's (although I would rather another Labour government if it comes to that). I don't support this much of any other party's manifesto (although some of the smaller parties do have some attractive policies).
Another thing to consider is that the Liberal Democrats are the only non-Labour/Conservative party with any real chance at success, however slim that chance is. Regarding why I'd vote for them and not Labour as a compromise: I don't agree with Labour and I don't want to see another Labour government, and voting for Labour as a compromise between what I want and what I don't want goes against my beliefs.
(Oh, also, it's important to remember that Wales has its own Assembly: I can vote and ignore issues of health and education because the WAG handles those. So there's that, too.)
I agree with their manifesto. Is that a crime? I support many of their policies. I disagree with most of the Conservatives' plans and also a great deal of Labour's (although I would rather another Labour government if it comes to that). I don't support this much of any other party's manifesto (although some of the smaller parties do have some attractive policies).
Another thing to consider is that the Liberal Democrats are the only non-Labour/Conservative party with any real chance at success, however slim that chance is. Regarding why I'd vote for them and not Labour as a compromise: I don't agree with Labour and I don't want to see another Labour government, and voting for Labour as a compromise between what I want and what I don't want goes against my beliefs.
(Oh, also, it's important to remember that Wales has its own Assembly: I can vote and ignore issues of health and education because the WAG handles those. So there's that, too.)
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Dannichu
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While I disagree that the greens are a single-issue party (they oppose student fees and support better, more efficient and cheaper national railway systems, strongly support nuclear disarmament, and their economic policies, if implimented, would be fantastic - and these are the issues in this election I care most about) and would absolutely love to vote for them, there's absolutely zero point.
If I were in Canterbury, I totally would - they're actually the second-most-voted-for party up there (after the Tories, who have won there in every election for the last 150+ years and I'm not exaggerating), but nobody down in Devon, particularly in my constituency, votes for Green, and the election's definitely going to be between the Tories and LibDems (with probably a few votes for UKIP but nothing for Labour, Green or anyone), and I don't want the Tories getting in.
If I were in Canterbury, I totally would - they're actually the second-most-voted-for party up there (after the Tories, who have won there in every election for the last 150+ years and I'm not exaggerating), but nobody down in Devon, particularly in my constituency, votes for Green, and the election's definitely going to be between the Tories and LibDems (with probably a few votes for UKIP but nothing for Labour, Green or anyone), and I don't want the Tories getting in.
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The Tories no longer exist as a party.
Very well. Looking back, I was being too argumentative yesterday. Still I resent the Liberals for always splitting the anti-Tory vote, and for their failures in my borough. There is a side of the party who are extremely economically conservative, who look up to Gladstone and not Lloyd George.
Harlequin
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Danni: yes, I'm watching it right now! Nick Clegg is really coming across very, very well! He's certainly better than Brown and he's owned Cameron a few times, too.
Let's hope this translates into poll points and votes!
EDIT: Does anyone else think that Cameron and Brown seem to be taking the opportunity to say "Labour/the Conservatives are worse than we are!!!" rather than telling people why we should vote for them? I really support what Nick Clegg said at the end, and it was much, much cleaner and less of an attack than Brown or Cameron's response.
Also: LOLOLOL MY CHILDREN GO TO STATE SCHOOL ... bully for you.
Let's hope this translates into poll points and votes!
EDIT: Does anyone else think that Cameron and Brown seem to be taking the opportunity to say "Labour/the Conservatives are worse than we are!!!" rather than telling people why we should vote for them? I really support what Nick Clegg said at the end, and it was much, much cleaner and less of an attack than Brown or Cameron's response.
Also: LOLOLOL MY CHILDREN GO TO STATE SCHOOL ... bully for you.
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goldenquagsire
Rubber dinghy rapids, bro!
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Arrrrrgh same. I haven't watched anything in over a month or something, I thought the debate was in April. Now I realise it is April. This happens way too much to me. :(
Good to hear that Clegg did well, though, that's brilliant. My Facebook news feed is full of people saying they might vote Lib Dems now. :'D
EDIT: I wrote 'good to hear the Clegg' did well by mistake, and now I think it sounds like an awesome name for a superhero. Everyone should totally refer to him as this from now on.
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Dannichu
Tragically unbeyachted.
I'm really pleased that Clegg's doing well - these debates are going to affect people who aren't sure who to vote for and/or those who might not want to vote; it could be wishful thinking, but the TV debates, I think, mean more people will take some kind of interest in the election (it takes actual effort to look up manifestos, but none to change channel and watch TV), and it could mean more people than usual actually vote, and more of them for the Lib Dems.
While I agree that the debates should definitely be about policy and discussion and actual politics than some kind of fashion show, I'd like to say that Cameron needs to stop wearing so much makeup. And airbrushing his publicity photos. It's very counterproductive and sends a terrible message to the voters.
While I agree that the debates should definitely be about policy and discussion and actual politics than some kind of fashion show, I'd like to say that Cameron needs to stop wearing so much makeup. And airbrushing his publicity photos. It's very counterproductive and sends a terrible message to the voters.
