ASB Mafia: Day I

[Coloursfall]

We should probably start using (r) and (p) when referring to roles and people, methinks, to clear up confusion. Like...

Full Metal Cookies(r) is the role
Full Metal Cookies(p) is the person (aka me)

Like MS said.

 

[blazheirio889]

Oh pfft, so that's what they stood for. Anyway.

I noted that last year, Kratos(p) was FMC(r) or moon-panther(r) and when he was killed, the person who was responsible for Kratos's(p) death was strangled with bare hands. On top of that, two people were killed that night, so if that ever happens, I think it'd be safe to assume that either FMC(r) or moon-panther(r) has died.

Again, not very useful, since we don't have any leads at the moment, but I felt like putting that out there for the future.

 

[Coloursfall]

Or there was a healer clash. That kills people too.

Oh, and something I've been thinking about as well. It's not a great idea to read too much into how the people were killed, but it can provide clues. As for this one, something with big pointy teeth that lives in water... brings to mind Feraligatr and Sharpedo. Anyone have those Pokemon?

But that's probably me reading into it too much so ~ignore me~

 

[blazheirio889]

Actually, in the message log it was explicitly said that Kratos(p) was FMC(r) or moon-panther(r), and he targeted Worst Username Ever should he be killed, and the next morning Kratos and WUE were found dead. And would a Wish-clash really result in hard-markings on throats? O.o

Well, I can only recall one Feraligator or Sharpedo in the ASB League (though of course I don't know everyone's Pokemon) and that's Dragon's ed'Rashkaresket (did I spell it right?). But Animorph could've been bitten on land, and then tossed into water, so I don't think that's such a good idea, to limit the killer Pokemon to an ocean predator. On top of that, it could've been a Gyarados.

In other words, while it could be possible that Dragon is Mafia, the chances are very, very slim, because why would any Mafia leader leave evidence like that? It's probably just a way to throw us off the scent.

 

[Blastoise Fortooate]

Dragon has a Carvahna...

 

[Coloursfall]

Nono I was talking about the part where you said a double kill means you can 'safely assume' it was FMC(r) and m-p(r), because healer clash causes kills too.

 

[blazheirio889]

No, Dragon's Carvahna evolved.

Oh, that. Oops. There's that, but I guess the appearance of the wounds/bruises/whatever would be different.

 

[Clover]

But that's probably me reading into it too much so ~ignore me~

Was that... (probably not, I've just been watching too much of that recently :P)

I wouldn't put too much thought into the 'who has a pokemon' thing. I mean, at least a few other people besides me are playing this without playing ASB, right? And playing IRC Mafia says that usually the mafia don't make up the CODs, the GM does.

Though to confuse things further... hm, there isn't any way one lover can be killed and the other live, is there? :P

 

[Karkat Vantas]

Hm. Keep in mind that the odds of any random person being Mafia is about 1 in 5 (assuming only one dragon/blazhy(r) chose to join the dark side).

Also, I'd like to point out that none of my Pokemon have any strong jaw muscles, so it couldn't have been me.

...I guess it's pretty safe to say I'm not Mafia.

 

[blazheirio889]

Or you could be saying that the ward off suspicion. >:U
Like Midnight said, though, it's not a good move to assume that the leader has a Pokemon with strong jaw muscles, because some of us don't even have an ASB account, or use it anymore.

 

[Crazy Linoone]

Dangit, and I was going around stalking everyone's profiles to see if they have a Pokemon with large teeth, too...

So now we still have zero leads. *sigh*

But now, let's have a discussion: Who would want to kill Animorph?

The current motive for killing Animorph that makes the most sense is that Animorph was the head of the mafia last year and won, which means that he must be pretty good at what he does. So perhaps anyone who has been killed by Animorph... Or people who have read about the previous Mafia...

... Wait. That's basically everyone, isn't it...

 

[Karkat Vantas]

Pfft. Why would I do that? I make myself too easy of a target. Regardless, I know the Mafia has plans for me, so whatever.

EDIT: Guys, the MAFIA KILLED ANIMORPH. Besides, it's pretty unlikely that we all correspond to the roles that have been named after us.

 

[blazheirio889]

What Crazy Linoone was trying to point out (though it's been mentioned before) that perhaps Animorph was killed because he seemed to be good at Mafia. At any rate, Animorph was declared not Mafia, so.

It's a common practice to kill the most experienced first, so they can't talk and contribute.

 

[Dragon]

Jppfth just because I have a Sharpedo? A lot of Pokemon have big teeth :V

It's a common practice to kill the most experienced first, so they can't talk and contribute.

..Blazhy you said you haven't played Mafia beforeee

 

[Phoenixsong]

Uh-huh, what Dragon said. I've read over the previous Mafia threads and Animorph did pretty well - though, I'm surprised Kratos didn't get killed first, as per usual xP

More than surprised, however, I'm a bit suspicious. From what I can gather, Kratos always gets picked off first, so why not this time? Either A) He's in the Mafia, (that's not funny >|) or B) The Mafia are trying to pin suspicion on him so we execute him ourselves and save them the trouble. Now B) is much, much more likely, so I'm not saying to go "KILL KRATOS D<" and stuff, just thought that it was worth putting out there.

Until I can set my brain straight and think properly once more, I'm going to step back and read the conversations -.-

This. This is why I can never win at this game anymore. Because clearly the game will cave in on itself if one of the following is not true:

1. Kratos dies first.
2. Kratos is mafia and must be executed first.
3. Kratos has a "doctor" role and commits suicide out of pure hatred for that part.

...the last complaint is aimed more at the RNGs the various GMs have used than any person in particular, but meh. >|

And Dragon, there are two variable roles--one Dragon(r) and one Blazhy(r). That's why two names were given in the first place.

Some GMs, for the record, do like to leave little clues as to the killer or something else relevant in the manner of death--there's another Mafia variant where that's actually the main bit of evidence you have to go on, and people incriminating themselves in discussion is just icing on the cake. My experience with the Mafia games here on TCoD is that the GMs generally don't do that, though, so I wouldn't bother reading too much into the manner of death as it might pertain to a player. Related to the role, possibly, such as death by wish-clash as opposed to death by mafioso, but not players. Although if Negrek did want to do that, there's nothing saying that the people who aren't active in ASB anymore couldn't just make the effort to look through the profiles... and no one who isn't actually a member, active or no, was allowed in anyway, so it's not like there should be anyone playing without a profile.

Midnight, there is no lover role in this game.

Anyway, we don't know a lot right now aside from the fact that Animorph(p) was not FMC(r) or moony(r); we also know that he was not MurrMurr(r), because if he were then no one would have died. So at least that means we can nominate people for execution without fear of total annihilation, if nothing else...

At least the mafiosos can rest easy with the knowledge that their Pokémon will not be turned into shark food the next time I ref one of their battles. Because I totally wasn't kidding about that.

(fff I wrote this over an hour ago but couldn't post it due to boardfail)

 

[blazheirio889]

xD Don't worry, it's not a solid-enough piece of evidence to go by; heck, I don't think it's even enough to place suspicion on you.

And after reading through the previous Mafia threads, I have a much better understanding of the game. At least, I think I do O.o My mind tends to go on all sorts of tangents when I'm playing games like these.

 

[Karkat Vantas]

If we want to get anywhere, we have to stop arguing.

I'm not so sure that "experienced players first" counts here. We'll have to see what the Mafia does next.

I'm not Mafia.

Also, Kratos, you aren't reffing Kam v. Psymon ):

 

[blazheirio889]

Kam, I don't think this is arguing; more like... heated debate. And like many people have said, we really don't have much information to go by, so... The 1st day usually results in random executions, anyways, as was said before as well.

I'd say that the only clues that come from the manner of death is the style of killing. So, for example, Kusari apparently had a fondness for sharp things, and Animorph had a tendency to kill in... flashier ways. The killing style is unlike what I've seen before, though, so there's not much to say here.

(and psst Kratos, I was just laying the options on the table. Don't turn me into shark food!)

 

[JackPK]

Anyway, we don't know a lot right now aside from the fact that Animorph(p) was not FMC(r) or moony(r); we also know that he was not MurrMurr(r), because if he were then no one would have died. So at least that means we can nominate people for execution without fear of total annihilation, if nothing else...

But theoretically, it's possible that somebody unknown to us at the moment(p) might have been MurrMurr(r), targeted by the Mafia, and "transformed", and that Animorph(p) might have died from clashing heals. Right?

Argh there's never any leads the first day.

 

[Phoenixsong]

Assuming that healer clash will be described as distinct from brutal murder, as it usually is, it's pretty safe to say that Animorph did not die of healer clash. I think someone brought this up before...?

Also, Kratos, you aren't reffing Kam v. Psymon ):

...I'm busy, reffing takes longer than posting in a Mafia game just to prove that I'm active, there are other reffings that have been waiting longer than yours and I don't especially care for being prodded if the DQ time isn't actually up yet. Even facetiously.