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Is it, especially for males, a moral/filial duty to procreate?

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I was discussing this with my friend from school. He said.

We have to procreate to keep the human race going - it's the moral thing to do.

And:

If the son doesn't have children, that's it for the family name, and it's a great shame and a blemish to the family for the surname to stop.

Which got me thinking: do we, especially for males, have a moral or filial duty to procreate? I personally disagree with the above statements.
 
We don't need to procreate to keep the human race going. There is an overpopulation problem - it's not as if we're on the brink of extinction, here.

And "a blemish to the family"? Seriously? Does anybody really still view it that way? The surname itself will only die out if you are literally the only man with the name in the world, and even then, do you really care that much about your silly surname? Women have always had to live with none of their descendants bearing their surname even if they do have children. Men should man up and get over it if their children do not feel like dedicating eighteen years of their lives to propagating the family surname (more, actually, because by that logic they'll have to continue to have children until they have a boy) against their will. :/
 
Yes. It's everyone's duty/moral obligation to have lots of heterosexual sex and have lots of babies so the men can feel good about themselves.
 
If the son doesn't have children, that's it for the family name, and it's a great shame and a blemish to the family for the surname to stop.

I mean, the first one is sort of a moot point (as Butterfree said, overpopulation), but who actually cares about their surname? My family's surname isn't going to be continued because I'm one of two daughters in this family, but the name isn't going to 'die out'. There are Chamberses everywhere!

This sounds like a load of 'it is the men's duty to spread the seed' bullshit, otherwise known as an 'honourable' excuse to fuck lots of women. :/
 
Crap, I was beaten to poking the overpopulation problem.

Either way, this is one of your troublesome old customs. People used to attach a duty to their surnames. Nowadays, though, not so much. And it's better that way.

I wouldn't call it "an excuse to fuck lots of women", though. I mean, most people who do that would rather not admit they're parents to most of the kids they make.
 
I care about my family name (and more specifically my personal family line). :( I'd like to have children one day.

Totally gayly, though.
 
I don't really care about my surname at all. :/

I've considered changing it to my mother's name, actually, especially since it's easier to spell (I have no idea why people have trouble with my current one), but "Danielle Duffy" sounds rather stupid. "Danielle Rundle-Duffy" sounds even moreso, though the idea of having the world's most blatantly Cornish and most Irish surnames at the same time is pretty appealing X3
 
Women have always had to live with none of their descendants bearing their surname even if they do have children.
Both my brother and I share our mother's surname. :3

I'd like to have children, but I don't see it as a 'moral obligation'. I just fancy the idea of being a dad. I don't particularly care about what surname they end up with - in fact, I've always thought that my own surname is pretty shit, so I'd be more in favour of giving them the mother's.

Besides, I've got four male cousins who share my surname. Chances are that at least one of us will have children. ~_~
 
What about if a couple only has daughters what then eh eh eh? The family name will die out!!!! because obviously the man taking the woman's surname in marriage is ridiculous!! (I am keeping my surname forever unless whoever I marry has a rather epic surname)

Also no it is not anyone's ~*duty in life*~ to procreate
We have almost 7 billion people on this planet, I'm sure we're fine for population at the moment
 
Does anyone actually believe that the human race is going to die out if they don't breed, or care for that matter? I mean, if you're alive now, it's highly unlikely to happen in your lifetime unless there's a big disaster or something (in which case it won't even matter how much anyone procreates.)

I'm not having kids, and I really hate this "derp derp if everyone felt the way you did we'd die out :B" idea. That's just the thing - not everyone feels the way I do. There's always going to be an Octomom or a Jon and Kate or a Duggar Family Clusterfuck to more than make up for my lack of breeding. :|

If you want your name to live on that badly, get off your ass and do something people will remember you for.
 
I have only sisters :P

Anyway, no, I don't even think it's important. Because...well, who cares about a surname, can't be all that important. And I don't really get how having kids is moral either.
 
People should have babies because they feel like they should. Simple as that. I don't wanna procreate, that's fine. My best friend wants to adopt. That's fine. Another friend of mine wants children that are biologically hers. That's fine too. For the child's sake if no one else's, parents should become parents out of want to be parents.
 
I don't think we need to have babies to keep the species going. People who want babies will keep the population going.

However, I love my surname and I want to keep it going. Katzakian is not a name you come across often, and I take lots of pride in it. Especially because it means vinegar maker XD

But if my kids would prefer their mother's name, I would be disappoint, but I wouldn't stop them, stop loving them or anything. It's their choice.
 
Well, I'm keeping my surname, but I'm a guy so I guess it doesn't matter.
Really though, I love my surname. CasaGrande-Appleby.
 
We don't need to procreate to keep the human race going. There is an overpopulation problem - it's not as if we're on the brink of extinction, here.

Well acually we arent over populating the world execpt around tokyo, bejing, and other large aisan cites but most other land is unpopulated.
Just correcting you on that fact but I personally don't really care what my faimly thinks of me.

The statement came from the days when most faimlies had 5 or six kids and most of them died before adulthood. In the end, it doesn't even matter. *cough*linkinparkrefrence*cough*
 
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