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I disagree! As a person who actually uses/is around people who use non-standard pronouns a lot, I think some do come across in different ways. Maybe not necessarily completely blank, but certainly different... qualities? Feels? I don't know, pronouns are important and it makes sense!
Obviously, in a 99% standard-pronoun-type environment, sure, they're always going to sound like ~Something Else~. There is pretty much no escaping that though, and I'm sure Zhorken realises that. Around inclusive parts of the internet though, or inclusive RL spaces, the variety in what pronouns people use begins to show (and is, to me, both beautiful and fun). Anyway, I think the feelings pronouns have will differ for everyone. I know that I really latched onto the Spivak set because 'e' to me sounds really blank and basic and frank, if that makes sense, but still a little elegant because it's a nice letter!! ('ey' loses a bit of that, but maybe I just feel that way because I saw 'e' used first.)
Sie/hir to me feels far, far more marked, maybe mostly because they sound too close to she/her to me (you could say that 'e' sounds like 'he', but I don't hear it spoken aloud that much, so I don't notice), so I've never really looked at them and felt I'd feel comfortable using them for me personally. And I don't like 'they' because it feels too blank, no doubt because it's usually used for an unknown gender rather than a non-binary gender. It feels too unpersonal, I guess.
As for per/pers... to me they don't sound very marked at all, but not 'blank' like 'e'. They seem like they have some character!! but not necessarily a feminine or masculine character, if that's what you mean. I think it's probably best if you just use a set you feel you really like, rather than rely on other people's impressions, because there's probably someone around who'd think they seem really girly or something, and then someone who'd feel the complete opposite. I've come across people who dislike Spivak pronouns because they seem marked, the complete opposite to how I feel!! I think they suit you if you like them!
I've been thinking about how I identify a bit lately!! When I first started identifying as genderqueer there was a bit of a lull but now it's in my thoughts a lot again. I think... hmm, I'm not sure how to explain it, but sometimes I wonder if I identify as female a little bit? I feel like not many people would really get what I'm talking about if I explained, so I keep it to myself most of the time, but maybe I'll just ramble for a bit. I identify with female fictional characters a lot, I am much, much, much more interested in female characters in fiction than male (male characters have to try reeeeeeeeally hard to even secure my attention in the first place nowadays because they are usually sooooo yawnworthy), and, of course, I identify really strongly with female/perceived-female experiences. I don't really feel female at all, I'm just... really interested in femaleness? I don't know!
Also, I feel like if I said this to non-trans* people in my life who never reeeeally quite got it in the first place, it'll be like, justification to think "oh it's okay to treat em like e's female and think of em that way, then". :| I... guess I feel very much genderqueer but am simultaneously... invested in femaleness?? woo inventing my own terminology. I mean, regardless, I'm going to keep identifying with female characters in fiction, be fairly on the femme side etc., and really it doesn't matter that much if I can't figure out the right way to explain this to people who are at best only politely, bemusedly curious. I suppose I just shouldn't worry and have fun exploring my identity or something!!
Also also!! I mean apart from a moment when I was about 14 when I identified as asexual, I've never been much in that community at all, BUT lately I've been identifying a bit on the ace spectrum! I'm fairly sure I'm demisexual, and I would like to get into the ace community and read up. I think it would be valuable to me!!
The queer folks around my uni continue to be really really awesome. THIS PLACE IS GREAT too bad I'm super-super-shy..................
/what's new in the life of pretty-queer cirrus
ANYWAY. Super-glad there are posts here, I'm having fond memories of the LGBT club a few years ago when it was my favourite spot on the forums. :D Hi guys!!
EDIT: OOPS there was another page. I think personally I do a fairly okay job at coming across as genuinely androgynous a lot of the time, but I admit that it might be generally harder for a MAAB. :( I wouldn't really suggest neutral-colour or cut clothing because that generally gets pegged as male especially along with other masculine markers ... I'd say go for a mix of feminine and masculine markers! You have long hair, right? Bright clothes tend to confuse people into not knowing how to define!
